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I have hashimoto disease and thus chronic deficiency of vitamin D. So some of my medics recommended me to take supplements until the deficiency goes away. The
by speeder 3y ago
I have hashimoto disease and thus chronic deficiency of vitamin D.
So some of my medics recommended me to take supplements until the deficiency goes away. The amount needed is quite high and into territory some medics consider unsafe.
Crazy thing is: whenever I switch medic they ask about it and then get confused.
Medics often have very strong opinions, sometimes utterly wrong ones. But whenever the subject is vitamin D they are just... confused.
I feel like vitamin D is utterly alien and mysterious. It is as if everyone knows it is there but nobody understands it very well.
- notamy 3y ago> I feel like vitamin D is utterly alien and mysterious. It is as if everyone knows it is there but nobody understands it very well. B12 is another one — B12 deficiency is absolutely horrific to end up with long-term, and doctors struggle to treat it properly due to extensive misconceptions[0] (ex insisting it’s impossible to have issues with oral absorption / that injections aren’t necessary). It also often gets misdiagnosed as things like MS due to them presenting very similarly in terms of symptoms[1]. [0] https://www.mcpiqojournal.org/article/S2542-4548(19)30033-5/fulltext https://www.mcpiqojournal.org/article/S2542-4548(19)30033-5/... [1] Table 1, page 12 https://researchonline.nd.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1215&context=health_article https://researchonline.nd.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article...
- dirtyhippiefree 3y agoThat’s what stopped me doing nitrous oxide…b12.. Rave culture will be hit hard in coming years. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366039/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366039/
- esaym 3y agoSteve-o begs to differ.
- dirtyhippiefree 3y ago…always a reliable source for role model tips… /s
- yieldcrv 3y agoLike 5 out of 1000 people at raves do nitrous oxide where I’m at
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y agoI always made sure to take B12 when using nitrous
- dirtyhippiefree 3y agoIf B12 uptake is restricted biologically, it may well not be enough. Besides, getting B vitamins from sources other than food is associated with cancer.
- travisjungroth 3y agoThat case study doesn’t include how much she was using, and in every case study of a hospital visit I’ve seen that included usage habits, it was extreme. Like daily usage for months.
- Projectiboga 3y agoAlcohol, Narcotics and a Vegan diet can all lower B12 levels so any of those together can cause a serious depletion.
- dirtyhippiefree 3y agoYour assumption that I didn’t “sow my wild oats” is your first error. Hopefully the sibling comments here will show why I might have reason to be concerned. Eating a lot of nuts these days….
- travisjungroth 3y agoHonestly, could you point out where I assumed that? I don’t think I expressed that assumption. I certainly don’t hold it. If you’re concerned about your own B12 levels, oral supplements are cheap and quite bioavailable. I do injections every 2 months since I find it more convenient than sublinguals daily. Every year I do blood tests and B12 is top of range. Not that this takes care of everything for someone still using. If I remember right, N2O blocks the processes B12 are involved in. It doesn’t just deplete it.
- hunter2_ 3y agoIt does, however, say: > the clinical manifestations of vitamin B12 deficiency have been noted not only in long-term nitrous oxide users, but also after a single exposure in those with susceptibility to vitamin B12 deficiency Basically, there are several sources of susceptibility, N2O being one of them, and they add up.
- PokemonNoGo 3y agoVery interesting. Is this a global thing or national?
- mistrial9 3y agoAmerican physicians have lost their license over this topic source: US registered nurse
- obloid 3y agoPhysicians have lost their license over being confused about vitamin D?
- celdon25 3y agoI have hashimotos and have happened to be often deficient in vitamin D but I thought it was unrelated. Endocrinologist is well aware of both and didn’t mention a link
- orochimaaru 3y agoMy doctor measured vitamin d for me. I was pretty low as most people are - I think around 25ng/ml. Normal range I believe is 30ng/ml - 60 ng/ml. I did get put on a higher dose vit d drops. Using about 1000 IU didn’t cut it. My numbers did not budge much. Using 5000 IU moved that into normal range at 35ng/ml. In general, the current US guidance has been anything upto 4000 IU is ok. How much does one need to take to get to significant endocrine disruption? The news article doesn’t answer that. It’s probably what folks with conditions like Hasimoto need to know as well. We live with endocrine disruptors all around us. Soap, shampoo, plastics, solvents, disinfectants among other things are all endocrine disruptors.
- dehrmann 3y agoA friend of a friend has an issue with potassium. The amount she has to take would literally kill someone.
- bilsbie 3y agoAre other hashimotos tips? My son is dealing with that.
- speeder 3y agoTo be honest? Patience. And research. And not be afraid to switch doctors. Also cutting edge treatment is available basically only in US and Thailand if I remember correctly. Other countries consider that treatment to be "archaic" ironically enough.
- celdon25 3y agoWhat sort of treatment is this?