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> ...a weapon that would actually be reasonable to use in a self defense scenario without harming yourself... Such a tired narrative. Guns are far more likely

> ...a weapon that would actually be reasonable to use in a self defense scenario without harming yourself... Such a tired narrative. Guns are far more likely to kill oneself or a loved one in an accident or suicide than to stop an attacker or robber. If one must rely on such a device for defense then the state has already failed spectacularly. Fixing such situation with guns, or bigger cars, or moving away won't make things better. In fact it entrenches the problems.

chmod600 3y ago
"Guns are far more likely to kill oneself or a loved one in an accident or suicide than to stop an attacker or robber." Accident rates are really low[1], part of a 3% "Other" bucket for gun-involved deaths. Suicide is not commonly viewed as a threat to one's safety. You could try to look at it that way but I don't think it's very convincing as you presented it. So if your point is that guns are a net decrease to an individual's safety, you need something more. [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-...