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> But the way it is written, it changes existing license! You can not do that in EU, what if user does not agree with the new licence? It is quite illegal in mo

> But the way it is written, it changes existing license! You can not do that in EU, what if user does not agree with the new licence? It is quite illegal in most EU countries! It is not illegal as the license terms are available from the start. The text of the license effectively changes. If you do not agree with what the license looks like after two years, you should not enter into that agreement in year zero. > Many scammers do that, and there are strong pro-consumer laws to prevent that! Consumer laws are largely based on the idea that you cannot take away people's rights, you can generally add rights. Even if there was a hypothetical case that you mention, it would be legally absurd in the FSL case. You could have the license swap over in the US, after which point in time no trace of the FSL remains and the license file can be legally swapped. In that case you can re-import the source code into your country.

Throwfi44 3y ago
Ok, imagine following scenario: - You started using product - One year latter ASF stops existing, apache.org returns 404 or viagra ads. - Two years latter, original FSL gets terminated, your new license for that software are 404 errors or viagra ads. You now have no license and should stop distribution! Think what you want, software under FSL is on my ban list.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
  That’s a purely hypothetical situation. Even in that case a court would very likely uphold the license just by the name. For what it’s worth plenty of software is only referencing a license by name or reference and I’m sure you are using that software as if that license were there in hardcopy. More importantly if you want to make a fork you can always retain that license the moment you fork, not the moment the license swaps. In fact you probably would want to start collecting contributions under Apache 2 straightaway.

Throwfi44 3y ago

Ok, imagine following scenario: - You started using product - One year latter ASF stops existing, apache.org returns 404 or viagra ads. - Two years latter, original FSL gets terminated, your new license for that software are 404 errors or viagra ads. You now have no license and should stop distribution! Think what you want, software under FSL is on my ban list.

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
That’s a purely hypothetical situation. Even in that case a court would very likely uphold the license just by the name. For what it’s worth plenty of software is only referencing a license by name or reference and I’m sure you are using that software as if that license were there in hardcopy. More importantly if you want to make a fork you can always retain that license the moment you fork, not the moment the license swaps. In fact you probably would want to start collecting contributions under Apache 2 straightaway.