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My opinion on extended lockdowns or anything else Covid-related really doesn't have much to do with my opinion that when forming strong opinions on complex subj

My opinion on extended lockdowns or anything else Covid-related really doesn't have much to do with my opinion that when forming strong opinions on complex subjects, especially ones that differ from consensus of experts, you should have good understanding of the basics of the subject as well as what are the experts basing their opinions on and why. Especially in science where the whole basis of the whole thing is evaluating how well your model performs predicting real world, throwing that all out and feeling things out really isn't as great method as many people seem to think.

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junofan 3y ago
I don’t think everyone appreciated suddenly taking part in an iterative scientific process without consent.
- bayesianbot 3y ago
  Doesn't really mean they should proudly talk about scientific subjects like they really know their stuff when they mostly don't know the things you'd learn from first chapters of your first science book, does it? It's not like this is only related to Covid. You can see people "doing their own research" on climate change as well, without knowing the basics of science, physics, systems science or actual climate science, but they've watched a podcast or read a blog. Covid just made this bro science stuff so mainstream that it's hard to have a beer in a bar without hearing about it.
  - kelipso 3y ago
    Letting in whatever scientists spew from their mouth in uncritically seems like a very bad idea. It's very naive because scientists have political, economic, social etc biases that might be counter to yours, and as we've seen clearly during the last couple of years, they have no issue with talking about their biased ideas as if they are scientific truth. To such an extent that scientific truth, trust the science, etc etc have become jokes.
- squigz 3y ago
  Most of modern society is a series of iterative scientific processes by which we learn what does and doesn't work in e.g. our economies

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junofan 3y ago

I don’t think everyone appreciated suddenly taking part in an iterative scientific process without consent.

bayesianbot 3y ago
Doesn't really mean they should proudly talk about scientific subjects like they really know their stuff when they mostly don't know the things you'd learn from first chapters of your first science book, does it? It's not like this is only related to Covid. You can see people "doing their own research" on climate change as well, without knowing the basics of science, physics, systems science or actual climate science, but they've watched a podcast or read a blog. Covid just made this bro science stuff so mainstream that it's hard to have a beer in a bar without hearing about it.
- kelipso 3y ago
  Letting in whatever scientists spew from their mouth in uncritically seems like a very bad idea. It's very naive because scientists have political, economic, social etc biases that might be counter to yours, and as we've seen clearly during the last couple of years, they have no issue with talking about their biased ideas as if they are scientific truth. To such an extent that scientific truth, trust the science, etc etc have become jokes.
squigz 3y ago
Most of modern society is a series of iterative scientific processes by which we learn what does and doesn't work in e.g. our economies