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How convenient! Turns out they don’t give the slightest damn about “Responsible AI” in the first place. It’s nice to roll out news like this while everyone else

How convenient! Turns out they don’t give the slightest damn about “Responsible AI” in the first place. It’s nice to roll out news like this while everyone else is distracted.

xvector 3y ago
Meta is probably the most ethical company in AI at the moment. Most importantly, their models are open source.
- andrewedstrom 3y ago
  You contradict yourself
  - ActorNightly 3y ago
    You think open sourcing your models isn't ethical?
    - andrewedstrom 3y ago
      Not necessarily, no. Open source models are already being used for all kinds of nefarious purposes. Any safety controls on a model are easily stripped off once its weights are public. Usually I love open source software. Most of my career has been spent writing open source code. But this is powerful and dangerous technology. I don’t believe that nuclear weapons should be open source and available to all either.
      - ActorNightly 3y ago
        You have a technically valid viewpoint, its just utterly impractical if you carry it to its logical conclusion. If something that can be used for good can also be used for nefarious purposes, you claim that some entity should exert a modicum of control over that thing to prevent it from being used for nefarious purposes. Now think about all the things in peoples day to day life that can be used for good, but also can be used for nefarious purposes, and see if you would be ok with your argument being applied for those.
      - michaelt 3y ago
        Personally, as someone sceptical of the likes of Google, Facebook and Microsoft (and the ethics demonstrated by multinational companies generally) I find the idea of all AI being controlled by a small cadre of Californian billionaires an extremely big ethical risk.
- MattHeard 3y ago
  Maybe this news should challenge your priors, then?
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - xvector 3y ago
    That's assuming this division actually did something beneficial to begin with, and if they did, that they are the only ones responsible for "responsible AI" development at Meta. It is in all likelihood just a re-org being blown out of proportion.
- ikari_pl 3y ago
  are they an ethical company, though?
  - OezMaster 3y ago
    Is one division responsible for the crimes of another division, especially in a large corporation?

How convenient! Turns out they don’t give the slightest damn about “Responsible AI” in the first place. It’s nice to roll out news like this while everyone else is distracted.

xvector 3y ago

Meta is probably the most ethical company in AI at the moment. Most importantly, their models are open source.

andrewedstrom 3y ago
You contradict yourself
- ActorNightly 3y ago
  You think open sourcing your models isn't ethical?
  - andrewedstrom 3y ago
    Not necessarily, no. Open source models are already being used for all kinds of nefarious purposes. Any safety controls on a model are easily stripped off once its weights are public. Usually I love open source software. Most of my career has been spent writing open source code. But this is powerful and dangerous technology. I don’t believe that nuclear weapons should be open source and available to all either.
    - ActorNightly 3y ago
      You have a technically valid viewpoint, its just utterly impractical if you carry it to its logical conclusion. If something that can be used for good can also be used for nefarious purposes, you claim that some entity should exert a modicum of control over that thing to prevent it from being used for nefarious purposes. Now think about all the things in peoples day to day life that can be used for good, but also can be used for nefarious purposes, and see if you would be ok with your argument being applied for those.
    - michaelt 3y ago
      Personally, as someone sceptical of the likes of Google, Facebook and Microsoft (and the ethics demonstrated by multinational companies generally) I find the idea of all AI being controlled by a small cadre of Californian billionaires an extremely big ethical risk.
MattHeard 3y ago
Maybe this news should challenge your priors, then?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- xvector 3y ago
  That's assuming this division actually did something beneficial to begin with, and if they did, that they are the only ones responsible for "responsible AI" development at Meta. It is in all likelihood just a re-org being blown out of proportion.
ikari_pl 3y ago
are they an ethical company, though?
- OezMaster 3y ago
  Is one division responsible for the crimes of another division, especially in a large corporation?