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It's more like making safe nukes. One person can do a lot more damage with AI than they can with a gun.

corethree 3y ago
First off that's theoretical. No damage of that scale has been done by an LLM yet. Second off nobody really believes this. That's why there's no age limit for LLM usage and there is for gun usage. Would you let your 10 year old kid play with a hand gun or chatGPT? Let's be real.
- dieselgate 3y ago
  I agree with your pragmatic approach. LLMs are a "high magnitude" advancement but we can't really correlate that with "severe destruction" in a physical way - maybe in a theoretical or abstract way. Kind of reminds me of the whole "dihydrogen monoxide kills so many people per year" parody
threadweaver34 3y ago
I'm not sure if it will actually be like that. In just a few years, AI will be so widespread we'll just assume anything not from a source we trust is fake.
- tiffanyg 3y ago
  Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. The US (in particular) has seen a significant decline in trust (think community, as in union, as in Federalist #10 etc.) in all manner of fundamentals of democracy and 'modernity' (tech, science, etc.) in the past several decades. And, bear in mind that there are significant differences in the way people cope with these sorts of changes and the increasing instability* quite generally for many people as well as local and regional communities. Fire departments, since the time of Ben Franklin, have mostly, to my knowledge, doused fires with "extinguishers," not "accelerants".** * Especially economic - not in the sense of "time for 'entitlements'", ideally, in the sense of "time to reconsider if trashing the 'New Deal' starting ~ in the 70s might have been a bad idea" ... for those not already thinking that way. Nothing better (socially) than to provide people with meaningful ways of 'acquiring capital.' ** Outside of stories in books, anyway...
Moldoteck 3y ago
Lol. Can you point pls how an llm be as dangerous as a nuclear bumb? Ok, let's go deeper, suppose we have created real AGI that is running on a ton of compute, how will this be as dangerous as nuclear bomb? By launching them? You know, this is impossible right? More chances it'll mess with trading systems but again, nothing to the scale of a nuclear bomb

First off that's theoretical. No damage of that scale has been done by an LLM yet. Second off nobody really believes this. That's why there's no age limit for LLM usage and there is for gun usage. Would you let your 10 year old kid play with a hand gun or chatGPT? Let's be real.

dieselgate 3y ago
I agree with your pragmatic approach. LLMs are a "high magnitude" advancement but we can't really correlate that with "severe destruction" in a physical way - maybe in a theoretical or abstract way. Kind of reminds me of the whole "dihydrogen monoxide kills so many people per year" parody

threadweaver34 3y ago

I'm not sure if it will actually be like that. In just a few years, AI will be so widespread we'll just assume anything not from a source we trust is fake.

tiffanyg 3y ago
Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. The US (in particular) has seen a significant decline in trust (think community, as in union, as in Federalist #10 etc.) in all manner of fundamentals of democracy and 'modernity' (tech, science, etc.) in the past several decades. And, bear in mind that there are significant differences in the way people cope with these sorts of changes and the increasing instability* quite generally for many people as well as local and regional communities. Fire departments, since the time of Ben Franklin, have mostly, to my knowledge, doused fires with "extinguishers," not "accelerants".** * Especially economic - not in the sense of "time for 'entitlements'", ideally, in the sense of "time to reconsider if trashing the 'New Deal' starting ~ in the 70s might have been a bad idea" ... for those not already thinking that way. Nothing better (socially) than to provide people with meaningful ways of 'acquiring capital.' ** Outside of stories in books, anyway...

Moldoteck 3y ago

Lol. Can you point pls how an llm be as dangerous as a nuclear bumb? Ok, let's go deeper, suppose we have created real AGI that is running on a ton of compute, how will this be as dangerous as nuclear bomb? By launching them? You know, this is impossible right? More chances it'll mess with trading systems but again, nothing to the scale of a nuclear bomb