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If you try to eat healthy, non processed foods, vegetables, etc, your food budget doubles if not triples.

by surge 3y ago

roflyear 3y ago
This absolutely is not true. Vegetables are some of the cheapest things you can eat. Certainly cheaper than dairy and meat, which is heavily subsidized. https://thebeet.com/is-it-expensive-to-be-plant-based-quite-the-opposite-it-turns-out/#:~:text=And%20I'm%20not%20alone,that's%20likely%20even%20higher%20today https://thebeet.com/is-it-expensive-to-be-plant-based-quite-.... You can just google this, or, you know - try it. The vegetarian stuff that costs a lot is: - If you shop at WholeFoods, but their prices are insane anyway - If you only eat Organic AND are picky about what you eat if you're ONLY ORGANIC. Organic has HUGE price swings, so if you're only organic you need to swap out what you want to eat, if you care about cost. - Meat substitutes - which can be good, but don't fit your bill generally - they are often heavily processed. Yes, it takes a GOOD amount more effort. You have to literally eat more, yes. That means you have to cook more. If you are cooking, the cooking is often more involved. Of course. But you also don't have to go full veggie either.
- lurking_swe 3y ago
  correct. it’s a cultural and parenting issue. People simply aren’t taught the importance of eating healthy, it’s not a habit in the household, etc. Or their understanding of healthy is wrong. And then of course the issue of self control (so much temptation in commercials, ads, etc)
rcbdev 3y ago
This is absolutely not true. I lived in the US (midwestern food desert) for half a year and absolutely made do with fresh tomatoes, ground beef from the counter, bell peppers, fresh garlic, onions etc. I didn't even have a car and had to walk over 30 minutes to the nearest store. The people in my apartment were all pretty young and were surprisingly confused every time I was making something fresh from scratch. And I am by far not a good cook by any standard in Europe - I'm far from average probably. I did the math (because I was broke) - on my "lazy" weeks where I didn't cook much fresh I spent much more money on average. I had access to 10 different fast food locations before I hit the first grocery store, this is the actual problem.
- surge 3y ago
  Well, currently cooking for 5 and if I shop in the produce department, getting fresh vegetables, etc, I'm paying a lot more than if I don't, or get some premade stuff with a higher shelf life.
mrkeen 3y ago
Only if you're one person who wants to eat one meal (which to be fair happens a lot). If you cook for two and/or reheat the leftovers the next day, I think you come out ahead.

If you try to eat healthy, non processed foods, vegetables, etc, your food budget doubles if not triples.

by surge 3y ago

If you try to eat healthy, non processed foods, vegetables, etc, your food budget doubles if not triples.

This absolutely is not true. Vegetables are some of the cheapest things you can eat. Certainly cheaper than dairy and meat, which is heavily subsidized. https://thebeet.com/is-it-expensive-to-be-plant-based-quite-the-opposite-it-turns-out/#:~:text=And%20I'm%20not%20alone,that's%20likely%20even%20higher%20today https://thebeet.com/is-it-expensive-to-be-plant-based-quite-.... You can just google this, or, you know - try it. The vegetarian stuff that costs a lot is: - If you shop at WholeFoods, but their prices are insane anyway - If you only eat Organic AND are picky about what you eat if you're ONLY ORGANIC. Organic has HUGE price swings, so if you're only organic you need to swap out what you want to eat, if you care about cost. - Meat substitutes - which can be good, but don't fit your bill generally - they are often heavily processed. Yes, it takes a GOOD amount more effort. You have to literally eat more, yes. That means you have to cook more. If you are cooking, the cooking is often more involved. Of course. But you also don't have to go full veggie either.

lurking_swe 3y ago
correct. it’s a cultural and parenting issue. People simply aren’t taught the importance of eating healthy, it’s not a habit in the household, etc. Or their understanding of healthy is wrong. And then of course the issue of self control (so much temptation in commercials, ads, etc)

rcbdev 3y ago

This is absolutely not true. I lived in the US (midwestern food desert) for half a year and absolutely made do with fresh tomatoes, ground beef from the counter, bell peppers, fresh garlic, onions etc. I didn't even have a car and had to walk over 30 minutes to the nearest store. The people in my apartment were all pretty young and were surprisingly confused every time I was making something fresh from scratch. And I am by far not a good cook by any standard in Europe - I'm far from average probably. I did the math (because I was broke) - on my "lazy" weeks where I didn't cook much fresh I spent much more money on average. I had access to 10 different fast food locations before I hit the first grocery store, this is the actual problem.

surge 3y ago
Well, currently cooking for 5 and if I shop in the produce department, getting fresh vegetables, etc, I'm paying a lot more than if I don't, or get some premade stuff with a higher shelf life.

mrkeen 3y ago

Only if you're one person who wants to eat one meal (which to be fair happens a lot). If you cook for two and/or reheat the leftovers the next day, I think you come out ahead.