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Talent following Financial backing to make a competitor Internal knowledge of roadmap Media focus Alignment with the 2nd most valuable company on the planet

Talent following Financial backing to make a competitor Internal knowledge of roadmap Media focus Alignment with the 2nd most valuable company on the planet. I could go on. I strongly dislike the guy but you need to recognize table stakes even in your enemy. Or you’ll be like Ilya. A naive fool who is gonna get wrecked thinking doing the “right” thing in his own mind will automatically means you win.

cthalupa 3y ago
From everything we can see Ilya appears to be a true believer. A true believer is going to act along the axis of their beliefs even if it ultimately results in failure. That doesn't necessarily make them naive or fools - many times they will fully understand that their actions have little or no chance of success. They've just prioritized a different value of you.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  That's fair, but by messing this up OpenAI may well end up without any oversight at all. Which isn't the optimum outcome by a long shot and that's what you get for going off half-cocked about a thing like this.
  - Sebb767 3y ago
    Assuming he sees OpenAI spinning out of control either way, it's probably better to have tried to change it and, if it fails, to at least not be part of the problem.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      I think that could have been done more graciously. And there are other drivers still on the table other than good governance, a good old palace revolution in disguise is definitely not ruled out at this point.
- tsunamifury 3y ago
  Agree but I see that as potato potahto. Failure by a different name with imaginary wins by the delusional ethicist.
hansSjoberg 3y ago
Ilya IS the talent. They were desperate to hire him.
- tsunamifury 3y ago
  I’ve been in his shoes at a smaller level. Once the company believes they have a stable sellable product they have no interest in any new breakthroughs. His table stakes are gone and Microsoft probably believes gpt4 turbo will be billable for years to come.

cthalupa 3y ago

From everything we can see Ilya appears to be a true believer. A true believer is going to act along the axis of their beliefs even if it ultimately results in failure. That doesn't necessarily make them naive or fools - many times they will fully understand that their actions have little or no chance of success. They've just prioritized a different value of you.

jacquesm 3y ago
That's fair, but by messing this up OpenAI may well end up without any oversight at all. Which isn't the optimum outcome by a long shot and that's what you get for going off half-cocked about a thing like this.
- Sebb767 3y ago
  Assuming he sees OpenAI spinning out of control either way, it's probably better to have tried to change it and, if it fails, to at least not be part of the problem.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    I think that could have been done more graciously. And there are other drivers still on the table other than good governance, a good old palace revolution in disguise is definitely not ruled out at this point.
tsunamifury 3y ago
Agree but I see that as potato potahto. Failure by a different name with imaginary wins by the delusional ethicist.

hansSjoberg 3y ago

Ilya IS the talent. They were desperate to hire him.

tsunamifury 3y ago
I’ve been in his shoes at a smaller level. Once the company believes they have a stable sellable product they have no interest in any new breakthroughs. His table stakes are gone and Microsoft probably believes gpt4 turbo will be billable for years to come.