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Weirdly, the port on a cheap mechanical keyboard I have is USB-C but the cable they packaged is USB-C -> USB-A instead. They likely didn't package C->C because

Weirdly, the port on a cheap mechanical keyboard I have is USB-C but the cable they packaged is USB-C -> USB-A instead. They likely didn't package C->C because of the chicken and egg problem. Not everyone has enough Type-C ports.

tazard 3y ago
Same. Keyboard and mouse
Retr0id 3y ago
Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. I built my own based on a USB 2.0 hub IC, but I never got around to publishing the design files. I should get on that! Even building a single prototype unit cost me about the same as a single off-the-shelf type-C hub, but of course, building subsequent units would be substantially cheaper.
- jorvi 3y ago
  > Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. Meanwhile the most frequent complaint I read about USB-C is trickster/confusing cables or hubs because they don’t support everything
  - antifa 3y ago
    I have more trouble using Amazon's useless filters or finding products that even try to be more specific than just "USB-C".
  - Retr0id 3y ago
    My theory is that's why it's so hard to buy a "featureless" hub - consumers will demand refunds if feature X is not present.
- 0x38B 3y ago
  I was outraged when I couldn’t find a small, simple USB 2.0 USB-C hub for my Framework! (1) 1: the four USB-C ports it provides aren’t enough for my use; one is occupied by Apple’s USB-C DAC (the Framework’s 3.5mm port is unusably noisy with my Shure IEMs). Then add my charger, tethered iPhone, and a peripheral like a mouse or drawing tablet, and you can see why I need a hub. P.S. if you did release the files and it was a reasonably affordable DIY project (e.g some soldering and assembly), I’d love that. Although I guess you’d need to buy a fair number of all the components to bring the price down.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  > Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. I've also noticed there are next to no usb-c hubs, apart from "docks" that usually do many more things are bigger. But, don't they have to provide the specced power to be "compliant"? What I find annoying is that even "higher end" docks don't have many usb-c ports. I'm typing this through a HP dock that has a big-ass power adaptor and is quite big and heavy itself (has a huge heatsink), yet it still provides only one usb-c port. At least it seems to implement PD (I can charge a laptop through the downstream port), even though I think it only provides 15W.
qmarchi 3y ago
Mine, a fairly budget mechanical keyboard, came with a C-C cable, but includes a small C to A adapter.

tazard 3y ago

Same. Keyboard and mouse

Retr0id 3y ago

Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. I built my own based on a USB 2.0 hub IC, but I never got around to publishing the design files. I should get on that! Even building a single prototype unit cost me about the same as a single off-the-shelf type-C hub, but of course, building subsequent units would be substantially cheaper.

jorvi 3y ago
> Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. Meanwhile the most frequent complaint I read about USB-C is trickster/confusing cables or hubs because they don’t support everything
- antifa 3y ago
  I have more trouble using Amazon's useless filters or finding products that even try to be more specific than just "USB-C".
- Retr0id 3y ago
  My theory is that's why it's so hard to buy a "featureless" hub - consumers will demand refunds if feature X is not present.
0x38B 3y ago
I was outraged when I couldn’t find a small, simple USB 2.0 USB-C hub for my Framework! (1) 1: the four USB-C ports it provides aren’t enough for my use; one is occupied by Apple’s USB-C DAC (the Framework’s 3.5mm port is unusably noisy with my Shure IEMs). Then add my charger, tethered iPhone, and a peripheral like a mouse or drawing tablet, and you can see why I need a hub. P.S. if you did release the files and it was a reasonably affordable DIY project (e.g some soldering and assembly), I’d love that. Although I guess you’d need to buy a fair number of all the components to bring the price down.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
> Type-C hubs are annoyingly expensive, because they all assume you want all the USB 3.x speed and/or power delivery bells and whistles - but for connecting simple peripherals none of that is necessary. I've also noticed there are next to no usb-c hubs, apart from "docks" that usually do many more things are bigger. But, don't they have to provide the specced power to be "compliant"? What I find annoying is that even "higher end" docks don't have many usb-c ports. I'm typing this through a HP dock that has a big-ass power adaptor and is quite big and heavy itself (has a huge heatsink), yet it still provides only one usb-c port. At least it seems to implement PD (I can charge a laptop through the downstream port), even though I think it only provides 15W.

qmarchi 3y ago

Mine, a fairly budget mechanical keyboard, came with a C-C cable, but includes a small C to A adapter.