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Genocide is different from killing, or even mass killing. It’s a political vision of the future where the other ethnicity simply cease to exists. Israel has 10%

by bsaul 3y ago

Genocide is different from killing, or even mass killing. It’s a political vision of the future where the other ethnicity simply cease to exists. Israel has 10% arab citizen living peacefully, serving in the army, being elected, and nobody wants to remove them from that land. Compared to the arab world where not a single jew remains (or close to it).

LargeTomato 3y ago
What makes a genocide is all too political. The debate about Israel committing genocide is not yet settled and banning politicians from social media because they take a fairly common viewpoint is not in the spirit of free speech. It is not appropriate for Meta to take action against people who call Israel's invasion a genocide.
capableweb 3y ago
> It’s a political vision of the future where the other ethnicity simply cease to exists Hasn't Likud had/has an official policy of "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"? If at the beginning, it was mostly Arab residents in the areas where there is now mostly Israelis, doesn't that count as trying to eliminate another ethnicity, from those particular areas? The political policy of Likud has resulted in multiple massacres, across a long period of time. Even if you wouldn't call it genocide personally, is it valuable to persecute people who would call it a genocide?
- bsaul 3y ago
  you kind of mix everything up to try and build a very oriented picture of the conflict : political sovereignty of a nation over a land, consequences of the ongoing civil war between jews and arabs since the beginning of the 20th century, one particular political party’s view, etc. the fact is israel doesn’t commit genocide, and it’s absurd to argue otherwise. It has military supremacy, and arabs demographic is so thriving that some even argue it could pose a threat to the jewish nature of israel.

by bsaul 3y ago

LargeTomato 3y ago

What makes a genocide is all too political. The debate about Israel committing genocide is not yet settled and banning politicians from social media because they take a fairly common viewpoint is not in the spirit of free speech. It is not appropriate for Meta to take action against people who call Israel's invasion a genocide.

capableweb 3y ago

> It’s a political vision of the future where the other ethnicity simply cease to exists Hasn't Likud had/has an official policy of "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"? If at the beginning, it was mostly Arab residents in the areas where there is now mostly Israelis, doesn't that count as trying to eliminate another ethnicity, from those particular areas? The political policy of Likud has resulted in multiple massacres, across a long period of time. Even if you wouldn't call it genocide personally, is it valuable to persecute people who would call it a genocide?

bsaul 3y ago
you kind of mix everything up to try and build a very oriented picture of the conflict : political sovereignty of a nation over a land, consequences of the ongoing civil war between jews and arabs since the beginning of the 20th century, one particular political party’s view, etc. the fact is israel doesn’t commit genocide, and it’s absurd to argue otherwise. It has military supremacy, and arabs demographic is so thriving that some even argue it could pose a threat to the jewish nature of israel.