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Why do you not think Ilya was the cheif architect of this failed coup? Im being serious everything ive seen points to him being the one responsible, there is no

Why do you not think Ilya was the cheif architect of this failed coup? Im being serious everything ive seen points to him being the one responsible, there is no way he will ever stay let alone work in tech again

cthalupa 3y ago
You are absolutely delusional if you think the man who oversaw the development of GPT would not be able to continue working in tech even if he orchestrated a failed coup.
- speedylight 3y ago
  GPT is based on research Google published, it’s not like he’s the Einstein of AI. Shenanigans like this can absolutely derail your future regardless of how talented you may be.
  - cthalupa 3y ago
    There's not many Einsteins of anything besides Einstein himself. That doesn't change the fact that he is widely considered in the field to be a top expert and has shown that he can lead the development of a wildly successful product. If this does end up being a failed coup, then it is of course detrimental to his career. But the statement I'm replying to was explicitly saying he would never work in tech again. Do you honestly believe there is any chance that Sutskever would be unable to work in this field somewhere else if he ultimately leaves OpenAI for whatever reason? I would bet $10,000 that he would have big name companies knocking on his door within days.
    - dkarras 3y ago
      days? before he walks out the door. he must already have permanently open doors for him if he wants. can he work on what he wants in those places? that is another story of course. but he knows the ins and outs of the lightning in a jar they captured and arguably that is the most promising asset on planet earth right now, so he'll be fine.
    - speedylight 3y ago
      Maybe not as extreme as never being able to find work again, but I doubt he’ll ever find himself in an important role where he’s able to lead and make consequential decisions. He basically clipped his own wings to put it metaphorically, if this is indeed a failed coup that was lead by him.
      - Davidzheng 3y ago
        Do you think if he starts a company no one will follow him?
        speedylight 3y ago
        Those on his team at OpenAI probably would yeah and anyone who shares views on AI safety. But the real question is will he able to raise capitol?
  - sumedh 3y ago
    > GPT is based on research Google published Why didnt Google create ChatGpt then, why did the fall behind?
    - whynotmaybe 3y ago
      Everything's obvious once you know all the answers. Google is publishing a lot of research and I guess many of them will be used by other companies. Do you know now which research will be the basis of tomorrow's most spoken tech? No. They don't either.
      - sumedh 3y ago
        > Everything's obvious once you know all the answers. No not really, Google has a history of not delivering or launching half baked products and then killing them quickly.
        whynotmaybe 3y ago
        Read this sentence as "it's easy to say something is successful once it reached success".
        sumedh 3y ago
        Did you miss the history part? Dont worry Google will launch a new version of a Chat App with AI to fix all their previous failures
  - jnwatson 3y ago
    Yet he managed to create versions of it that work better than what Google itself could make.
    - Gigablah 3y ago
      Well, he was hired away from Google in the first place.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        Years ago. And Google has been working actively on AI since that time, and even more actively since GPT-3.5 was released and they realized they need to catch up. They are still catching up. What does this tell us?
dereg 3y ago
I do think he was the chief architect of the coup. I do think his beliefs and ideals are still valuable flora for a company of this ambition. There just needs to be a more professional structure for him to voice them. Dealing with folks like Ilya isn't necessarily a matter of if, but how much.

cthalupa 3y ago

You are absolutely delusional if you think the man who oversaw the development of GPT would not be able to continue working in tech even if he orchestrated a failed coup.

speedylight 3y ago
GPT is based on research Google published, it’s not like he’s the Einstein of AI. Shenanigans like this can absolutely derail your future regardless of how talented you may be.
- cthalupa 3y ago
  There's not many Einsteins of anything besides Einstein himself. That doesn't change the fact that he is widely considered in the field to be a top expert and has shown that he can lead the development of a wildly successful product. If this does end up being a failed coup, then it is of course detrimental to his career. But the statement I'm replying to was explicitly saying he would never work in tech again. Do you honestly believe there is any chance that Sutskever would be unable to work in this field somewhere else if he ultimately leaves OpenAI for whatever reason? I would bet $10,000 that he would have big name companies knocking on his door within days.
  - dkarras 3y ago
    days? before he walks out the door. he must already have permanently open doors for him if he wants. can he work on what he wants in those places? that is another story of course. but he knows the ins and outs of the lightning in a jar they captured and arguably that is the most promising asset on planet earth right now, so he'll be fine.
  - speedylight 3y ago
    Maybe not as extreme as never being able to find work again, but I doubt he’ll ever find himself in an important role where he’s able to lead and make consequential decisions. He basically clipped his own wings to put it metaphorically, if this is indeed a failed coup that was lead by him.
    - Davidzheng 3y ago
      Do you think if he starts a company no one will follow him?
      - speedylight 3y ago
        Those on his team at OpenAI probably would yeah and anyone who shares views on AI safety. But the real question is will he able to raise capitol?
- sumedh 3y ago
  > GPT is based on research Google published Why didnt Google create ChatGpt then, why did the fall behind?
  - whynotmaybe 3y ago
    Everything's obvious once you know all the answers. Google is publishing a lot of research and I guess many of them will be used by other companies. Do you know now which research will be the basis of tomorrow's most spoken tech? No. They don't either.
    - sumedh 3y ago
      > Everything's obvious once you know all the answers. No not really, Google has a history of not delivering or launching half baked products and then killing them quickly.
      - whynotmaybe 3y ago
        Read this sentence as "it's easy to say something is successful once it reached success".
        sumedh 3y ago
        Did you miss the history part? Dont worry Google will launch a new version of a Chat App with AI to fix all their previous failures
- jnwatson 3y ago
  Yet he managed to create versions of it that work better than what Google itself could make.
  - Gigablah 3y ago
    Well, he was hired away from Google in the first place.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      Years ago. And Google has been working actively on AI since that time, and even more actively since GPT-3.5 was released and they realized they need to catch up. They are still catching up. What does this tell us?

dereg 3y ago

I do think he was the chief architect of the coup. I do think his beliefs and ideals are still valuable flora for a company of this ambition. There just needs to be a more professional structure for him to voice them. Dealing with folks like Ilya isn't necessarily a matter of if, but how much.