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> You agree with the fact that iOS developers must go through the App Store? Would you want it to be illegal for you to distribute any content you produce and f

> You agree with the fact that iOS developers must go through the App Store? Would you want it to be illegal for you to distribute any content you produce and for you to have to go through a middle man? I have no opinion on this as it is not currently a problem and it is not relevant. > Does that also mean if that I wanted to create my own Indy movie I couldn’t sell it on my own website? Just like you can create your own movie and show it at your own venue, so can you sell it on your website. However studios cannot own movie theaters and should not own their own distribution platforms. Taking something and mincing it down to the smallest iteration and using that to prove that it is wrong is either obtuse or dishonest. > How does it help the consumer for all content to have to go through a middle man where they get a cut? Should drug companies own pharmacies? What about hospitals? At a certain point it is not good for the consumer to let manufacturers control the distribution of their product.

scarface_74 3y ago
So you are saying that producers should not be able to distribute their own content? Are you saying that no one should be able to produce their own video and sell it themselves? So I can distribute my own video on my own website. So what if I get together with a group of college friends and we decide to sell our movies on a website we jointly own, should that be illegal? If I am a news organization and do a show of re-enactments of true crime like CNN Headline News and sell it as a subscription, should that be illegal too? And why just video producers? Should song writers also not be allowed to distribute those own content? Writers? Software developers? Wouldn’t it be considered a violation of free speech if I wasn’t allowed to produce a video and distribute it myself? Are you saying if I create a video on my phone I shouldn’t be allowed to sell it on my own website? I’m a producer and a distributor. And now studios can own movie theaters… https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/studios-can-now-own-movie-theaters-11934927 https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/studios-can-now-own-movi...
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  Ignoring your irrelevant hypotheticals for which I am not arguing, why is having distribution channels controlled by the content owners beneficial? At this point there is no way for a third party to license content from enough content owners because of cross licensing deals and their ownership of competing platforms. So there can be no place where one can watch a diverse selection like netflix used to be. Is this good for consumers? Do you think the content owners even want it?
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    It’s not a hypothetical. You are saying that the government should outlaw content producers from distributing their own content. How do you define content producers and are you going to force them to allow anyone to distribute their content? Are you going to apply the same standards to all content producers? There was never a time that Netflix had the majority of the top content - especially movies Sure you can watch all of the content you want just like you always did - you pay for it.
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    - Eisenstein 3y ago
      Proposing something is one thing and having the final laws and regulations ready for you to dissect are another. Is it not possible to say 'this is a good idea' without having it taken to the most extreme possible point and then required to split hairs over hypotheticals? Are you arguing for a consumer first perspective or an ideological one? Because if you care about consumers you are not approaching dialog in any way that seems proactive to that. If it is ideological then your motive is just to win based on a belief that you are right. One of those things is productive and one is not.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        I am simply saying that you come up with a proposal where the government tells content producers that they can’t distribute the content they create on their own website and where do you think is a reasonable place to draw the line on content? Should the government also set mandatory licensing requirements for content and the amounts? Should the government force Disney to license a $100 million to produce marvel movie at the same cost as a $5 million Blumhouse movie? Come up with a reasonable proposal where the government doesn’t allow you to distribute your own content.
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scarface_74 3y ago

So you are saying that producers should not be able to distribute their own content? Are you saying that no one should be able to produce their own video and sell it themselves? So I can distribute my own video on my own website. So what if I get together with a group of college friends and we decide to sell our movies on a website we jointly own, should that be illegal? If I am a news organization and do a show of re-enactments of true crime like CNN Headline News and sell it as a subscription, should that be illegal too? And why just video producers? Should song writers also not be allowed to distribute those own content? Writers? Software developers? Wouldn’t it be considered a violation of free speech if I wasn’t allowed to produce a video and distribute it myself? Are you saying if I create a video on my phone I shouldn’t be allowed to sell it on my own website? I’m a producer and a distributor. And now studios can own movie theaters… https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/studios-can-now-own-movie-theaters-11934927 https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/studios-can-now-own-movi...

Eisenstein 3y ago
Ignoring your irrelevant hypotheticals for which I am not arguing, why is having distribution channels controlled by the content owners beneficial? At this point there is no way for a third party to license content from enough content owners because of cross licensing deals and their ownership of competing platforms. So there can be no place where one can watch a diverse selection like netflix used to be. Is this good for consumers? Do you think the content owners even want it?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  It’s not a hypothetical. You are saying that the government should outlaw content producers from distributing their own content. How do you define content producers and are you going to force them to allow anyone to distribute their content? Are you going to apply the same standards to all content producers? There was never a time that Netflix had the majority of the top content - especially movies Sure you can watch all of the content you want just like you always did - you pay for it.
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  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    Proposing something is one thing and having the final laws and regulations ready for you to dissect are another. Is it not possible to say 'this is a good idea' without having it taken to the most extreme possible point and then required to split hairs over hypotheticals? Are you arguing for a consumer first perspective or an ideological one? Because if you care about consumers you are not approaching dialog in any way that seems proactive to that. If it is ideological then your motive is just to win based on a belief that you are right. One of those things is productive and one is not.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      I am simply saying that you come up with a proposal where the government tells content producers that they can’t distribute the content they create on their own website and where do you think is a reasonable place to draw the line on content? Should the government also set mandatory licensing requirements for content and the amounts? Should the government force Disney to license a $100 million to produce marvel movie at the same cost as a $5 million Blumhouse movie? Come up with a reasonable proposal where the government doesn’t allow you to distribute your own content.
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