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Here’s another theory. > the ousting was likely orchestrated by Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever over concerns about the safety and speed of OpenAI's tech deploy

Here’s another theory. > the ousting was likely orchestrated by Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever over concerns about the safety and speed of OpenAI's tech deployment. Who was first to launch a marketplace for GPTs/agents? It wasn’t OpenAI, but Poe by Quora. Guess who sits on the OpenAI non-profit board? Quora CEO. So at least we know where his interest lies with respect to the vote against Altman and Greg.

svnt 3y ago
This is a really good point. If a non profit whose board you sit on releases a product that competes with a product from the corporation you manage, how do you manage that conflict of interest? Seems he should have stepped down.
- loeber 3y ago
  Yeah, I just wrote about this as well on my substack. There were two significant conflicts of interest on the OpenAI board. Adam D'Angelo should've resigned once he started Poe. The other conflict was that both Tasha McCauley and Helen Toner were associated with another AI governance organization.
  - svnt 3y ago
    Thanks — the history of board participation you sleuthed is interesting for sure: https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board
    - loeber 3y ago
      Thank you!
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Yes, he should have.
- IAmGraydon 3y ago
  How does Poe compete with OpenAI? It's literally running OpenAI's models.
  - svnt 3y ago
    Poe forms a layer of indirection and customization above the models. They feed data through the api and record those interactions, siphoning off what would have been OpenAI customer data. You could have maybe argued it either way until the most recent OpenAI updates, depending on what you thought OpenAI’s strategy would be, but since the release last week of ChatGPTs with roles they are now clearly in direct competition.
atleastoptimal 3y ago
The current interim CEO also spearheaded ChatGPT's development. Its the biggest product, consumer market based move the company's ever made. I can't imagine it's simply a pure "Sam wanted profits and Ilya/board wanted pure research" hard line in the sand situation.

svnt 3y ago

This is a really good point. If a non profit whose board you sit on releases a product that competes with a product from the corporation you manage, how do you manage that conflict of interest? Seems he should have stepped down.

loeber 3y ago
Yeah, I just wrote about this as well on my substack. There were two significant conflicts of interest on the OpenAI board. Adam D'Angelo should've resigned once he started Poe. The other conflict was that both Tasha McCauley and Helen Toner were associated with another AI governance organization.
- svnt 3y ago
  Thanks — the history of board participation you sleuthed is interesting for sure: https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board
  - loeber 3y ago
    Thank you!
jacquesm 3y ago
Yes, he should have.
IAmGraydon 3y ago
How does Poe compete with OpenAI? It's literally running OpenAI's models.
- svnt 3y ago
  Poe forms a layer of indirection and customization above the models. They feed data through the api and record those interactions, siphoning off what would have been OpenAI customer data. You could have maybe argued it either way until the most recent OpenAI updates, depending on what you thought OpenAI’s strategy would be, but since the release last week of ChatGPTs with roles they are now clearly in direct competition.

atleastoptimal 3y ago

The current interim CEO also spearheaded ChatGPT's development. Its the biggest product, consumer market based move the company's ever made. I can't imagine it's simply a pure "Sam wanted profits and Ilya/board wanted pure research" hard line in the sand situation.