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I'm curious what recourse Microsoft has, if any. Presumably there's some clause protecting them against openAI self-immolating? Interestingly, the situation i

I'm curious what recourse Microsoft has, if any. Presumably there's some clause protecting them against openAI self-immolating? Interestingly, the situation is fully reversible for now: 1. Majority of employees sign a strong letter condemning the board and calling for their resignation. 2. MSFT threatening to activate whatever protective clause they have 3. Other investors/donors threatening lawsuits. 4. Sustkever et all resign, new board appointed and Sam and Greg come back. Things could be back to business as usual by Monday morning.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> I'm curious what recourse Microsoft has, if any. Presumably there's some clause protecting them against openAI self-immolating? Given the disclaimer attached to the OpenAI Global LLC (the entity Microsoft is directly invested in) operating agreement that is also reposted on OpenAI's own description of its structure about how investment in the firm should be treated as a donation, and that the firm has no obligation to seek profit, and its primary goal is to serve the charitable mission of the nonprofit and that that will trump all other concerns including profit, I doubt very much that that is the case. Now, if there was actual evidence that the board (which is, remember, the board of the nonprofit) was not making a bona fide effort to serve its understanding of the charitable purpose of the nonprofit, but instead serving some unrelated (especially profit-oriented) reason, that would perhaps be grounds of the lawsuit, but most of the concerns being expressed are exactly the opposite -- that the board is putting its view of the nonprofit's purpose ahead of commercial interests that people wish the firm would pursue. Which is exactly what the entire structure (and the laws governing charities) are set up to assure...
cthalupa 3y ago
> Sustkever et all resign, new board appointed and Sam and Greg come back. > Things could be back to business as usual by Monday morning. How in the world is losing Sutskever business as usual?

dragonwriter 3y ago

> I'm curious what recourse Microsoft has, if any. Presumably there's some clause protecting them against openAI self-immolating? Given the disclaimer attached to the OpenAI Global LLC (the entity Microsoft is directly invested in) operating agreement that is also reposted on OpenAI's own description of its structure about how investment in the firm should be treated as a donation, and that the firm has no obligation to seek profit, and its primary goal is to serve the charitable mission of the nonprofit and that that will trump all other concerns including profit, I doubt very much that that is the case. Now, if there was actual evidence that the board (which is, remember, the board of the nonprofit) was not making a bona fide effort to serve its understanding of the charitable purpose of the nonprofit, but instead serving some unrelated (especially profit-oriented) reason, that would perhaps be grounds of the lawsuit, but most of the concerns being expressed are exactly the opposite -- that the board is putting its view of the nonprofit's purpose ahead of commercial interests that people wish the firm would pursue. Which is exactly what the entire structure (and the laws governing charities) are set up to assure...

cthalupa 3y ago

> Sustkever et all resign, new board appointed and Sam and Greg come back. > Things could be back to business as usual by Monday morning. How in the world is losing Sutskever business as usual?