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I know nothing about this specific painting but the fact that it was painted by an Italian artist in Italy is a red herring. As far as I understand the law all

I know nothing about this specific painting but the fact that it was painted by an Italian artist in Italy is a red herring. As far as I understand the law allows any significant art piece in France to be deemed a National Treasure. Think of it more as an important asset for the country rather than something that was made in France or by a French person. In French the definition is that it is important to the national "patrimoine", which is the same word used to refer to someone's assets/estate.

sombragris 3y ago
Just a little nitpick on the French word. Since it's from Latin, there's also a Spanish cognate, patrimonio. The word has no exact English equivalent but as parent said, it could mean someone's assets/estate. I would like to add that sometimes it can also be translated as "heritage". This could serve to complete the idea of the concept behind it.
- idiomaddict 3y ago
  Patrimony is the English word for money, goods, or cultural goods one receives from their father. It also refers to something that belongs in a church, like a relic. Even inside Romance languages, false friends exist, so I wouldn’t assume the meanings are exactly the same in Spanish and French. (Obligado vs. Obrigado, for the classic Spanish Portuguese example)
  - sombragris 3y ago
    > Patrimony is the English word That's correct. But as a translator, that's a word I wouldn't even consider to use as a translation for patrimonio or similar. Almost no English speaker would understand me. At the very best that person would consider my translation as very idiosyncratic or quirky. > Even inside Romance languages, false friends exist, Also correct, but in this case the cognates have almost equivalent meanings. See, for example: https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-spanish/patrimoine https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-spanish/patrimoine

sombragris 3y ago

Just a little nitpick on the French word. Since it's from Latin, there's also a Spanish cognate, patrimonio. The word has no exact English equivalent but as parent said, it could mean someone's assets/estate. I would like to add that sometimes it can also be translated as "heritage". This could serve to complete the idea of the concept behind it.

idiomaddict 3y ago
Patrimony is the English word for money, goods, or cultural goods one receives from their father. It also refers to something that belongs in a church, like a relic. Even inside Romance languages, false friends exist, so I wouldn’t assume the meanings are exactly the same in Spanish and French. (Obligado vs. Obrigado, for the classic Spanish Portuguese example)
- sombragris 3y ago
  > Patrimony is the English word That's correct. But as a translator, that's a word I wouldn't even consider to use as a translation for patrimonio or similar. Almost no English speaker would understand me. At the very best that person would consider my translation as very idiosyncratic or quirky. > Even inside Romance languages, false friends exist, Also correct, but in this case the cognates have almost equivalent meanings. See, for example: https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-spanish/patrimoine https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-spanish/patrimoine