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They can spin it how they want, but it'll 100% turn out to be a AI doomerist panic reaction. They didn't even inform MSFT about it which is absolutely ridiculou

They can spin it how they want, but it'll 100% turn out to be a AI doomerist panic reaction. They didn't even inform MSFT about it which is absolutely ridiculous

nvm0n2 3y ago
Yeah it seems like not entirely candid may turn out to be something like "he said he was a super-doomer and pinky swore it to us, but then we realized he wasn't doomer enough for us". If it's not malfeasance about finance, business, safety or security practices and is merely a "breakdown in communications" then that rules out virtually everything that could justify such an abrupt firing. Sounds like there's no legal problems to worry about, leaving an incompetent board as the only obvious possibility left. When I was younger I remember thinking non-profit orgs were awesome and hoping to work in that space one day. This + the Wikimedia Foundation funding scandal + the proliferation of "misinformation" NGOs has really turned me off the whole concept. Nonprofits seem to have more than their fair share of problematic governance. There's something about commercial trade that grounds people.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > There's something about commercial trade that grounds people. It's called shareholder lawsuits. I really do wonder about boards of non-public companies, though. I'd expect them to be, on balance, not much different from NGO boards or even HOA boards.
basisword 3y ago
In retrospect, it wasn't the brightest move for Microsoft to be baking this in to their OS, Office suite, search engine, etc. Having a core feature of your core products depend on a startup with a bizarre profit/non-profit structure is idiotic. Amazing they haven't been building this tech themselves - maybe that's their next move. Poach as many of the OpenAI staff as they can and build in-house.
- ilikehurdles 3y ago
  I think MSFT has full access to the underlying tech, not just a strategic partnership with OpenAI. I think their AI/LLM offerings have a future even in a future without OpenAI.
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They can spin it how they want, but it'll 100% turn out to be a AI doomerist panic reaction. They didn't even inform MSFT about it which is absolutely ridiculous

nvm0n2 3y ago

Yeah it seems like not entirely candid may turn out to be something like "he said he was a super-doomer and pinky swore it to us, but then we realized he wasn't doomer enough for us". If it's not malfeasance about finance, business, safety or security practices and is merely a "breakdown in communications" then that rules out virtually everything that could justify such an abrupt firing. Sounds like there's no legal problems to worry about, leaving an incompetent board as the only obvious possibility left. When I was younger I remember thinking non-profit orgs were awesome and hoping to work in that space one day. This + the Wikimedia Foundation funding scandal + the proliferation of "misinformation" NGOs has really turned me off the whole concept. Nonprofits seem to have more than their fair share of problematic governance. There's something about commercial trade that grounds people.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
> There's something about commercial trade that grounds people. It's called shareholder lawsuits. I really do wonder about boards of non-public companies, though. I'd expect them to be, on balance, not much different from NGO boards or even HOA boards.

basisword 3y ago

In retrospect, it wasn't the brightest move for Microsoft to be baking this in to their OS, Office suite, search engine, etc. Having a core feature of your core products depend on a startup with a bizarre profit/non-profit structure is idiotic. Amazing they haven't been building this tech themselves - maybe that's their next move. Poach as many of the OpenAI staff as they can and build in-house.

ilikehurdles 3y ago
I think MSFT has full access to the underlying tech, not just a strategic partnership with OpenAI. I think their AI/LLM offerings have a future even in a future without OpenAI.
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