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But as the article states, with GL, not vulkan. Unless the article is obsolete itself?

• charcircuit 3y ago
  Sure, but OpenGL itself is still useful and used in modern software.
  • sylware 3y ago
    It is legacy and started to be retired. Not to mention GL is a massive and gigantic kludge/bloat compared to vulkan (mostly due to the glsl compiler). So this is good to let it go.
    • tristan957 3y ago
      If you have spare time, the GTK maintainers want people to work on the Vulkan renderer. Benjamin Otte and Georges Stavracas Neto have put in a bit of effort to make the Vulkan renderer better. GL is only deprecated on Mac from what I understand.
      • sylware 3y ago
        GL is being retired. I humbly don't think I am the right guy for that: I use raw x11, and will use raw wayland once the steam client is finally and actually wayland enabled, even though I may do the jump before... because "valve": their "pressure-vessel" is buggy, and I am helping fixing alsa support in SDL3, all that is starting... namely if I code something GFX related that would be more a wayland compositor on drm(dmabufs)/vulkan, probably based on valve one, either in plain and simple C (compiling with tcc, cproc/qbe, simple-cc/qbe), minimal to 0 dependencies without the latest ISO tantrums, or x86_64 assembly (before a port to riscv in the far future). But never say never.
        • play_ac 3y ago
          You shouldn't use raw X11 or raw Wayland unless you're writing a low-level toolkit. If you're working on games, SDL should handle all that stuff for you.
          • sylware 3y ago
            Completely wrong: chatgpt again?
            • play_ac 3y ago
              No, really. Those APIs are too low level to be useful for normal applications. Nothing in them is useful for games at all. I don't know why you think it's appropriate to put in these insults either. Cut it out.
              • sylware 3y ago
                This is so wrong, yep chatgpt.
    • charcircuit 3y ago
      I don't think Valve's window toolkit ever supported vulkan. Steam no longer uses OpenGL because they replaced their window toolkit with Chrome. >It is legacy and started to be retired. The standard itself, but the implementations are still being maintained and new extensions are being added. It is still a solid base to build upon.
      • sylware 3y ago
        It is being retired, it is a massive bloat compared to vulkan (mainly because of the glsl compiler), so it is reasonable to say than building upon it is a mistake.
        • charcircuit 3y ago
          I see know signs that it is being retired on platforms other than mac. With vulkan you have to bloat your own program's code and introduce complexity. Regardless bloat doesn't matter so I don't know why you are focusing on that.
          • sylware 3y ago
            ok chatgpt.
        • play_ac 3y ago
          This comment is pretty wrong. Vulkan still uses the GLSL compiler.
          • sylware 3y ago
            No, https://registry.khronos.org/vulkan/specs/1.3-extensions/html/vkspec.html https://registry.khronos.org/vulkan/specs/1.3-extensions/htm...
            • play_ac 3y ago
              Can you tell me which part of this you're referring to?