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> That's a shallow take. deep takes are automatically superior ?

viraptor 3y ago
If they account for more details, sure. They usually are. Take the comment originally responded to. Hamas is more of an underdog than Palestine, yet the public opinion we're discussing here is pro-palestinian, not pro-hamas.
- apwell23 3y ago
  > They usually are. No they are not. I can very easily come up with even more convoluted take than yours and call your shallow. Doesn't mean my convoluted take is superior. eg: it unlikely that american teens on tiktok can enumerate human rights. https://www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/ https://www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/ "Occam’s razor is a principle often attributed to 14th–century friar William of Ockham that says that if you have two competing ideas to explain the same phenomenon, you should prefer the simpler one."
  - prmph 3y ago
    But that is Ockham's opinion. Doesn't mean it is some unassailable universal truth. The keyword here is "should"; it is a prescriptive opinion, nothing more
krapp 3y ago
At the very least they demonstrate more than a bare minimum of insight and effort. But if you prefer to contribute nothing but low-effort snark to what should be a serious conversation, go off?
- apwell23 3y ago
  > At the very least they demonstrate more than a bare minimum of insight and effort sure but that doesn't automatically imply outcome is superior. Occam’s razor. > low-effort snark what snark. maybe try reading without a lot of emotion.
  - krapp 3y ago
    You're going to have to give us your parameters for "superior," and we can compare notes. I consider an informed opinion superior to an uninformed one, and a comment that displays insight to one without insight, and effort superior to a lack thereof. I don't know why you're going through this much effort to defend your comment. You couldn't even be arsed to write the word "people" out entirely. I have to assume you're just here to troll.
    - apwell23 3y ago
      > You're going to have to give us your parameters for "superior." You should ask the person who implied shallow takes are inferior. Not me.

If they account for more details, sure. They usually are. Take the comment originally responded to. Hamas is more of an underdog than Palestine, yet the public opinion we're discussing here is pro-palestinian, not pro-hamas.

apwell23 3y ago
> They usually are. No they are not. I can very easily come up with even more convoluted take than yours and call your shallow. Doesn't mean my convoluted take is superior. eg: it unlikely that american teens on tiktok can enumerate human rights. https://www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/ https://www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/ "Occam’s razor is a principle often attributed to 14th–century friar William of Ockham that says that if you have two competing ideas to explain the same phenomenon, you should prefer the simpler one."
- prmph 3y ago
  But that is Ockham's opinion. Doesn't mean it is some unassailable universal truth. The keyword here is "should"; it is a prescriptive opinion, nothing more

krapp 3y ago

At the very least they demonstrate more than a bare minimum of insight and effort. But if you prefer to contribute nothing but low-effort snark to what should be a serious conversation, go off?

apwell23 3y ago
> At the very least they demonstrate more than a bare minimum of insight and effort sure but that doesn't automatically imply outcome is superior. Occam’s razor. > low-effort snark what snark. maybe try reading without a lot of emotion.
- krapp 3y ago
  You're going to have to give us your parameters for "superior," and we can compare notes. I consider an informed opinion superior to an uninformed one, and a comment that displays insight to one without insight, and effort superior to a lack thereof. I don't know why you're going through this much effort to defend your comment. You couldn't even be arsed to write the word "people" out entirely. I have to assume you're just here to troll.
  - apwell23 3y ago
    > You're going to have to give us your parameters for "superior." You should ask the person who implied shallow takes are inferior. Not me.