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You would have said the same thing about airplanes at the turn of the 20th century and dismissed them as fads for rich people. Or about computers. Or the intern

You would have said the same thing about airplanes at the turn of the 20th century and dismissed them as fads for rich people. Or about computers. Or the internet. And yet here you are. > you talk about new eras, but nothing changes. And yes, it does affect my life. I have dreamed my whole life of this stuff happening. After growing up in a "third world" country, I navigated the byzantine US immigration system, went through a decade+ of training, to finally be here and working at a new-space company right at the beginning of this new space age. The industry that I am working at right now would be in a completely different place (and a lot smaller) without SpaceX. It also wouldn't exist without the advances made for Apollo and the Space Shuttle program. > What is SpaceX going to use for going to Mars? Starship probably. > Are you gonna be the one that’s going Maybe. There is a non-zero chance now that the system that will achieve it is that much closer to being operational. You are missing the step change in cost that this will enable. > or are they gonna leave you behind to rot here on this burning planet It does not have to be one or the other. The "burning planet" will be solved just like we solved every other challenge facing our species. You are obviously going through some stuff and seem to be in place where you cannot appreciate the good things that are happening in this world. But that does not change the fact that they are.

Podgajski 3y ago
What you’re telling me here is that you’re just being selfish. This is good for you so it should be good for all of humanity. I’m sorry, but it’s not. I appreciate a lot of good things when they happen. I’m saying this this is not a good thing. Do you think it’s a good thing because it made your life better. But you’re only seeing it from your perspective. You don’t have a holistic view of the world.
- DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
  > This is good for you so it should be good for all of humanity. I’m sorry, but it’s not. You asked me how it impacts me and I answered. > But you’re only seeing it from your perspective. You don’t have a holistic view of the world. You are failing to see the holistic view yourself because you seem to be having a bad time. Lowering the cost of mass-to-orbit by a couple of orders of magnitude significantly changes what can be done in space. This includes truly massive satellites (e.g. https://www.k2space.com/ https://www.k2space.com/) that can provide services for Earth that were not possible before. In-space manufacturing of materials that cannot be made easily on Earth. Moving polluting industries off the surface, mining of resources from space (for use in space or on the surface if it is valuable enough) and much more. It is a feed-back loop that will compound into massive changes. All of that and more will impact the whole of humanity in a very positive way.
  - Podgajski 3y ago
    Why do we need satellites and space to care about each other? I don’t need a massive satellite in space, I need somewhere to live. A massive satellite in space is not going to provide me a house. And it’s not gonna provide any time before my death. Which is being hind because I’m homeless. Which is being hasten because, I have no healthcare. Don’t you understand? You’re all surprised about my negative comments but I’m sure you would be feeling the same if you were in my position right now.
    - DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
      > You’re all surprised about my negative comments but I’m sure you would be feeling the same if you were in my position right now. There are things that do not benefit you right at this moment. That does not mean that they are not a boon to society at large and a net-positive for this world. A significant fraction of the billions of people on this planet have had their life changed positively due to advancements in space technology - in all probability including you. And it will continue to do so. I am sorry that you are not in a place where you can appreciate that and be happy about it. I hope it changes for you.
    - notfish 3y ago
      Gps uses satellites, and basically the only high speed internet you can get without a house is starlink. Both get better with starship
- csomar 3y ago
  And how is some company launching a rocket involved in you not being able to get housing? I understand your frustration but you can’t just blame anything for it.

Podgajski 3y ago

What you’re telling me here is that you’re just being selfish. This is good for you so it should be good for all of humanity. I’m sorry, but it’s not. I appreciate a lot of good things when they happen. I’m saying this this is not a good thing. Do you think it’s a good thing because it made your life better. But you’re only seeing it from your perspective. You don’t have a holistic view of the world.

DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
> This is good for you so it should be good for all of humanity. I’m sorry, but it’s not. You asked me how it impacts me and I answered. > But you’re only seeing it from your perspective. You don’t have a holistic view of the world. You are failing to see the holistic view yourself because you seem to be having a bad time. Lowering the cost of mass-to-orbit by a couple of orders of magnitude significantly changes what can be done in space. This includes truly massive satellites (e.g. https://www.k2space.com/ https://www.k2space.com/) that can provide services for Earth that were not possible before. In-space manufacturing of materials that cannot be made easily on Earth. Moving polluting industries off the surface, mining of resources from space (for use in space or on the surface if it is valuable enough) and much more. It is a feed-back loop that will compound into massive changes. All of that and more will impact the whole of humanity in a very positive way.
- Podgajski 3y ago
  Why do we need satellites and space to care about each other? I don’t need a massive satellite in space, I need somewhere to live. A massive satellite in space is not going to provide me a house. And it’s not gonna provide any time before my death. Which is being hind because I’m homeless. Which is being hasten because, I have no healthcare. Don’t you understand? You’re all surprised about my negative comments but I’m sure you would be feeling the same if you were in my position right now.
  - DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
    > You’re all surprised about my negative comments but I’m sure you would be feeling the same if you were in my position right now. There are things that do not benefit you right at this moment. That does not mean that they are not a boon to society at large and a net-positive for this world. A significant fraction of the billions of people on this planet have had their life changed positively due to advancements in space technology - in all probability including you. And it will continue to do so. I am sorry that you are not in a place where you can appreciate that and be happy about it. I hope it changes for you.
  - notfish 3y ago
    Gps uses satellites, and basically the only high speed internet you can get without a house is starlink. Both get better with starship
csomar 3y ago
And how is some company launching a rocket involved in you not being able to get housing? I understand your frustration but you can’t just blame anything for it.