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I don’t think words can state how angry this makes me. Wtf is wrong with those police and judge. How can this be socially acceptable? Those people should be beh

I don’t think words can state how angry this makes me. Wtf is wrong with those police and judge. How can this be socially acceptable? Those people should be behind bars for cruelty against humanity. Couldn’t imagine something like this in Europe. Certainly we have our systematic problems towards homelessness but what’s going on in the states is intensionaly beating down.

pxmpxm 3y ago
Maybe instead of going full-feels, you should pause and contemplate why those sorts of regulations and laws exist. I would imagine it relates to the premise that public spaces are supposed to be a benefit to all, which doesn't happen if they mostly serve as an encampment for a minority of a population. Well-intentioned actions like the ones in the parent post can actually come with negative externalities that entirely outweigh them; places like San Francisco are learning that particular lesson as we speak.
- nativeit 3y ago
  OK, I contemplated it. They’re band-aids, tools of oppression, and the worst possible response to “the problems” they profess to address. We can fix poverty and homelessness as a society. We choose not to do so. That’s a shitty excuse for criminalizing a person’s right to exist and survive.
- jiminymcmoogley 3y ago
  I see a lot of San Franciscans online complain about homeless people leaving their feces and used needles in the streets and harassing people going about their lives, I don't see so many complaints about them eating food. Surely an approach that maximises the freedom for all would be one that criminalizes the actually harmful behaviour, rather than going after the segment of society whose existence correlates strongly with that behaviour. It just seems like going after Tony Soprano by putting italians into internment camps, rather than devoting police activity to capturing mafia criminals
- soco 3y ago
  The society is (arguably?) working for the benefit of all its citizens. So no user of a public space should be prioritized over another. If the homeless takes a dump in the park it's because he doesn't have a better place to do it, so dear society please go fix that. PS: leftists are often called "snowflakes" but I see the others whining waaaay more.

pxmpxm 3y ago

Maybe instead of going full-feels, you should pause and contemplate why those sorts of regulations and laws exist. I would imagine it relates to the premise that public spaces are supposed to be a benefit to all, which doesn't happen if they mostly serve as an encampment for a minority of a population. Well-intentioned actions like the ones in the parent post can actually come with negative externalities that entirely outweigh them; places like San Francisco are learning that particular lesson as we speak.

nativeit 3y ago
OK, I contemplated it. They’re band-aids, tools of oppression, and the worst possible response to “the problems” they profess to address. We can fix poverty and homelessness as a society. We choose not to do so. That’s a shitty excuse for criminalizing a person’s right to exist and survive.
jiminymcmoogley 3y ago
I see a lot of San Franciscans online complain about homeless people leaving their feces and used needles in the streets and harassing people going about their lives, I don't see so many complaints about them eating food. Surely an approach that maximises the freedom for all would be one that criminalizes the actually harmful behaviour, rather than going after the segment of society whose existence correlates strongly with that behaviour. It just seems like going after Tony Soprano by putting italians into internment camps, rather than devoting police activity to capturing mafia criminals
soco 3y ago
The society is (arguably?) working for the benefit of all its citizens. So no user of a public space should be prioritized over another. If the homeless takes a dump in the park it's because he doesn't have a better place to do it, so dear society please go fix that. PS: leftists are often called "snowflakes" but I see the others whining waaaay more.