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Don't need to wait a decade, or even a half, for AI mental healthcare. It's already been tried. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/eating-disor

Don't need to wait a decade, or even a half, for AI mental healthcare. It's already been tried. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/eating-disorder-hotline-union-ai-chatbot-harm https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/eating-di...

anonzzzies 3y ago
Eventually it will 'win' though.
- pawelmurias 3y ago
  If the AI bots provide better health care then the psychotherapy meat puppets won't it be a win? Those kind of people are most commonly language model kind of humans with little general intelligence logical reasoning so easy to replace by a LLM. People often become psychologists to treat their own mental issues so even the meat puppets share the weakness of suffering from hallucinations.
  - rileycantread 3y ago
    >Those kind of people are most commonly language model kind of humans with little general intelligence logical reasoning so easy to replace by a LLM. What negative experience do you have with specifically people who are psychiatrists (not a fan of the practice either) that justifies totally dehumanising them like this?
    - corethree 3y ago
      Profit Incentives. By nature humans are a contradictory creatures capable of both good and evil. In the medical field the evil part gets maximized because they see so many patients they get lazy and lose the desire to do good and they also lose sensitivity against avoiding evil. So what happens is they will lie for more money. Very common. Dehumanization is a term about getting rid of the evil and the good because being human is about both evil and good. That's not what the parent is doing. You're the one interpreting humanity through a dehumanizing lens. You should expect immorality and incompetence from humanity by default. Any other view is dehumanizing.
  - anonzzzies 3y ago
    I put 'win' between '' as I specifically didn't mean that type of win. That would obviously be a win. I mean 'win' in that we will replace people despite a worse outcome. If AI bots are better it's a real win, but they aren't yet and we don't know if they will be (there is hope of course).
  - couchand 3y ago
    Please keep the discourse on HN civil.

anonzzzies 3y ago

Eventually it will 'win' though.

pawelmurias 3y ago
If the AI bots provide better health care then the psychotherapy meat puppets won't it be a win? Those kind of people are most commonly language model kind of humans with little general intelligence logical reasoning so easy to replace by a LLM. People often become psychologists to treat their own mental issues so even the meat puppets share the weakness of suffering from hallucinations.
- rileycantread 3y ago
  >Those kind of people are most commonly language model kind of humans with little general intelligence logical reasoning so easy to replace by a LLM. What negative experience do you have with specifically people who are psychiatrists (not a fan of the practice either) that justifies totally dehumanising them like this?
  - corethree 3y ago
    Profit Incentives. By nature humans are a contradictory creatures capable of both good and evil. In the medical field the evil part gets maximized because they see so many patients they get lazy and lose the desire to do good and they also lose sensitivity against avoiding evil. So what happens is they will lie for more money. Very common. Dehumanization is a term about getting rid of the evil and the good because being human is about both evil and good. That's not what the parent is doing. You're the one interpreting humanity through a dehumanizing lens. You should expect immorality and incompetence from humanity by default. Any other view is dehumanizing.
- anonzzzies 3y ago
  I put 'win' between '' as I specifically didn't mean that type of win. That would obviously be a win. I mean 'win' in that we will replace people despite a worse outcome. If AI bots are better it's a real win, but they aren't yet and we don't know if they will be (there is hope of course).
- couchand 3y ago
  Please keep the discourse on HN civil.