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"Jews hate white people" is status quo?

by sixothree 3y ago

mufti_menk 3y ago
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- otalp 3y ago
  He said it’s the absolute truth that “Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them”
  - mufti_menk 3y ago
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    - sundaeofshock 3y ago
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    - happytoexplain 3y ago
      That's pretty dishonest. It's only an "unarguable fact" if you consider "X group does Y" to be true if any members of X do Y, in which case it's an "unarguable fact" that all races push hatred of all other races and we should encourage hatred of people based on race for that reason. You can criticize organizations without lauding broadly hateful comments with no qualification on your praise, which is what Musk did. What happened isn't complicated or even particularly subjective, frankly, though the broader topic certainly is. You can also engage in that broader topic without defending obvious shit-stirring specific examples/figures, like Musk. There are people making sound criticisms of e.g. Israel or the ADL. You can take their positions, instead of joining hands with a low-quality source of noise and trolling, like Musk and the guy he was praising.
      - mufti_menk 3y ago
        The statement said "Jewish communities", not Jews. The ADL and Israeli government fall under those categories. This kind of response is just like the ADL, who attempt to smear anyone who criticizes their influence as an anti-semite. You can also engage in that broader topic without defending obvious shit-stirring specific examples/figures, like Musk. Sure, but when a topic that people don't want to discuss is brought up, people will spend eternity addressing the manner in which it is brought up to avoid addressing any of the concerns directly.
- polotics 3y ago
  How is this even true? All members of a very vaguely and variably defined large group of humans have engaged in one specific behaviour, that to top it off is understood to bear responsibility very vaguely connected to the behaviour's laudable intent. ... If everything to you sounds like a dog whistle, then maybe you are a dog?
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  - mufti_menk 3y ago
    What is vague or variable about it? Groups that explicitly represent themselves as Jewish have promoted progressive ideas such as multiculturalism, and are being criticized for the consequences of those policies.
    - polotics 3y ago
      May I suggest a refresher in basic set theory? "Groups that represent themselves as X" isn't equal to X.
      - mufti_menk 3y ago
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"Jews hate white people" is status quo?

mufti_menk 3y ago

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otalp 3y ago
He said it’s the absolute truth that “Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them”
- mufti_menk 3y ago
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  - sundaeofshock 3y ago
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  - happytoexplain 3y ago
    That's pretty dishonest. It's only an "unarguable fact" if you consider "X group does Y" to be true if any members of X do Y, in which case it's an "unarguable fact" that all races push hatred of all other races and we should encourage hatred of people based on race for that reason. You can criticize organizations without lauding broadly hateful comments with no qualification on your praise, which is what Musk did. What happened isn't complicated or even particularly subjective, frankly, though the broader topic certainly is. You can also engage in that broader topic without defending obvious shit-stirring specific examples/figures, like Musk. There are people making sound criticisms of e.g. Israel or the ADL. You can take their positions, instead of joining hands with a low-quality source of noise and trolling, like Musk and the guy he was praising.
    - mufti_menk 3y ago
      The statement said "Jewish communities", not Jews. The ADL and Israeli government fall under those categories. This kind of response is just like the ADL, who attempt to smear anyone who criticizes their influence as an anti-semite. You can also engage in that broader topic without defending obvious shit-stirring specific examples/figures, like Musk. Sure, but when a topic that people don't want to discuss is brought up, people will spend eternity addressing the manner in which it is brought up to avoid addressing any of the concerns directly.
polotics 3y ago
How is this even true? All members of a very vaguely and variably defined large group of humans have engaged in one specific behaviour, that to top it off is understood to bear responsibility very vaguely connected to the behaviour's laudable intent. ... If everything to you sounds like a dog whistle, then maybe you are a dog?
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- mufti_menk 3y ago
  What is vague or variable about it? Groups that explicitly represent themselves as Jewish have promoted progressive ideas such as multiculturalism, and are being criticized for the consequences of those policies.
  - polotics 3y ago
    May I suggest a refresher in basic set theory? "Groups that represent themselves as X" isn't equal to X.
    - mufti_menk 3y ago
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