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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33431427 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33431427 : > FWIU, heat engines are useful with all thermal gradients: pipes
by westurner 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33431427 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33431427 :
> FWIU, heat engines are useful with all thermal gradients: pipes, engines, probably solar panels and attics; "MIT’s new heat engine beats a steam turbine in efficiency" (2022) https://www.freethink.com/environment/heat-engine https://www.freethink.com/environment/heat-engine
"Thermophotovoltaic efficiency of 40%" (2022)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04473-y https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04473-y https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=14197364440245631757&as_sdt=5,43&sciodt=0,43&hl=en https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1419736444024563175...
"Capturing Light From Heat at 40% Efficiency, NREL Makes Big Strides in Thermophotovoltaics" (2022)
https://www.nrel.gov/news/program/2022/capturing-light-from-heat-at-40-percent-efficiency-nrel-makes-big-strides-in-thermophotovoltaics.html#:~:text=Careful%20Design%20Yields%20World%2DRecord,slightly%20different%20wavelengths%20of%20light https://www.nrel.gov/news/program/2022/capturing-light-from-.... :
> The 41%-efficient TPV device is a tandem cell—a photovoltaic device built out of two light-absorbing layers stacked on top of each other and each optimized to absorb slightly different wavelengths of light. The team achieved this record efficiency through the usage of high-performance cells optimized to absorb higher-energy infrared light when compared to past TPV designs. This design builds on previous work from the NREL team.
> Another crucial design feature leading to the high efficiency is a highly reflective gold mirror at the back of the cell. Much of the emitted infrared light has a longer (less energetic) wavelength than what the cell's active layers can absorb. This back surface reflector bounces 93% of that unabsorbed light back to the emitter, where it is reabsorbed and reemitted, improving the overall efficiency of the system. Further improvements to the reflectance of the back reflector could drive future TPV efficiencies close to or above 50%.
Thermoelectric effect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect
Thermophotovoltaic energy conversion *: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermophotovoltaic_energy_conversion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermophotovoltaic_energy_conv...
Thermophotonics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermophotonics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermophotonics
Gas turbine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_turbine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_turbine :
> gross thermal efficiency exceeds 60%. [100] (2011)
GE-7HA
https://www.ge.com/news/press-releases/ha-technology-now-available-industry-first-64-percent-efficiency https://www.ge.com/news/press-releases/ha-technology-now-ava... (2017) :
> that its largest and most efficient gas turbine, the HA, is now available at more than 64 percent efficiency in combined cycle power plants, higher than any other competing technology today.
How do TPV operating and lifecycle costs differ from gas turbine's costs?
- westurner 3y agoTODO; though/also - after a gas turbine or solid-state TPV cell array - you have to store electricity, which is lossy and inefficient: An electric motor's efficiency is not necessarily the same as its generator efficiency in reverse. Gravitational Potential Energy CAES Compressed Air Energy Storage: Solar thermal energy > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy : > Electrical conversion efficiency: Of all of these technologies the solar dish/Stirling engine has the highest energy efficiency. A single solar dish-Stirling engine installed at Sandia National Laboratories National Solar Thermal Test Facility (NSTTF) produces as much as 25 kW of electricity, with a conversion efficiency of 31.25%. [66] Szilard-Chalmers MOST process: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34027647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34027647 ...18 years at what conversion efficiency?