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> it just doesn't need the tone IMO it does, people aren't machines and they both tend to produce and respond to strongly worded criticism. > It's like readin

> it just doesn't need the tone IMO it does, people aren't machines and they both tend to produce and respond to strongly worded criticism. > It's like reading something from /. circa the mid 2000s - most of us have grown up since then. New humans are created all the time, the people who disliked at what big companies were doing back in 2000s - and being vocal about it in the social platforms of the time - growing complacent in 2020s doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same.

skrrtww 3y ago
I don't think anyone is trying to go to bat for Apple's graphics API policies in this thread or are corporate shills. I originally described it as a screed because of the tone, profanity, several factual inaccuracies, as well as the cutting and derogatory comments by the maintainer further down in the thread that I found unwarranted.
- a1ba 3y ago
  Sorry, it happens. :)
- xcv123 3y ago
  I use an Apple device, but I also agree with this guy. "Fuck Apple". His rant was funny and accurate. But oh no... he hurt Apple's feelings. A fucking three trillion dollar company is going to cry itself to sleep tonight because of his mean hurtful rant on GitHub.
Klonoar 3y ago
You're welcome to your opinion, but I contend that your opinion is part of the problem in open source. Maturity is necessary - it's not "growing complacent" to realize there are better ways to express yourself in 2020+.
- mistercheph 3y ago
  Please show us these better ways, oh master, that we may follow you.
- xcv123 3y ago
  > there are better ways to express yourself in 2020+ Tone policing is still lame in 2020+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing
  - pharrington 3y ago
    Tone policing is one of this forum's foundational rules. You're going to have a bad time here if you don't understand the utility of putting in the effort to have more civil discussions.
    - xcv123 3y ago
      Tone Policing is a type of ad hominem logical fallacy, as explained in the article. If committing ad hominem logical fallacies is one of the rules of the forum, then this forum is a waste of time. This thread has already been a complete waste of time.
- badsectoracula 3y ago
  > Maturity is necessary [..] better ways to express yourself in 2020+. Well, part of my opinion is that i disagree that trying to force a specific tone is a sign of maturity and i do not see that as a better way of expression. It can be easier to stomach, especially to those who do not want to see the opinions discussed, but at last personally i do not consider that as better.

skrrtww 3y ago

I don't think anyone is trying to go to bat for Apple's graphics API policies in this thread or are corporate shills. I originally described it as a screed because of the tone, profanity, several factual inaccuracies, as well as the cutting and derogatory comments by the maintainer further down in the thread that I found unwarranted.

a1ba 3y ago
Sorry, it happens. :)
xcv123 3y ago
I use an Apple device, but I also agree with this guy. "Fuck Apple". His rant was funny and accurate. But oh no... he hurt Apple's feelings. A fucking three trillion dollar company is going to cry itself to sleep tonight because of his mean hurtful rant on GitHub.

Klonoar 3y ago

You're welcome to your opinion, but I contend that your opinion is part of the problem in open source. Maturity is necessary - it's not "growing complacent" to realize there are better ways to express yourself in 2020+.

mistercheph 3y ago
Please show us these better ways, oh master, that we may follow you.
xcv123 3y ago
> there are better ways to express yourself in 2020+ Tone policing is still lame in 2020+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing
- pharrington 3y ago
  Tone policing is one of this forum's foundational rules. You're going to have a bad time here if you don't understand the utility of putting in the effort to have more civil discussions.
  - xcv123 3y ago
    Tone Policing is a type of ad hominem logical fallacy, as explained in the article. If committing ad hominem logical fallacies is one of the rules of the forum, then this forum is a waste of time. This thread has already been a complete waste of time.
badsectoracula 3y ago
> Maturity is necessary [..] better ways to express yourself in 2020+. Well, part of my opinion is that i disagree that trying to force a specific tone is a sign of maturity and i do not see that as a better way of expression. It can be easier to stomach, especially to those who do not want to see the opinions discussed, but at last personally i do not consider that as better.