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Hypothetically how would you handle an incompetent nonprofit board?

BryantD 3y ago
I wouldn’t keep working for them. Sometimes there isn’t an optimal outcome, in which case it’s often best to cut losses and leave.
arp242 3y ago
How do you distinguish between an incompetent non-profit board and a board you disagree with? Outright "incompetence" in these types of things is hard to quantify. So I would deal with that by accepting there are people in the world who disagree with me and then using the normal methods of dealing with that, as difficult and frustrating as that can be. "I firmly believe in my right, and will do whatever it takes to get my way" is one of the quicker ways to completely corrupt both the general conversation and yourself. Because what if you're wrong? I can no longer address your actual arguments, because you keep them hidden from me. We can no longer compromise because I no longer know what you want.
- junofan 3y ago
  > How do you distinguish between an incompetent non-profit board and a board you disagree with? Take a look at the board composition and its recent actions.
  - arp242 3y ago
    I have no idea what you're referring to as I don't follow these types of things day-to-day, but it absolutely baffles me that we're having this conversation in the first place and that people are seriously making a "it's okay to lie through your teeth if people are being stupid" argument. It's morally bankrupt, corrupting, and is utterly vile.
    - junofan 3y ago
      Never said it was okay to lie. I am saying a competent board could have handled things differently. Depending on what actually happened, everyone can be in the wrong here.
      - arp242 3y ago
        > Never said it was okay to lie. All your messages in this thread strongly suggest you do. e.g. "What’s he supposed to do?" certainly does not come across as a mark of disapproval and I have no idea how else to interpret this. If you meant to say something else then you should have said something clearer than a string of vague one-liners that signal approval in any common sense reading.
  - FridgeSeal 3y ago
    It’s got some board members: tick. They got rid of a guy for lying to them: seems reasonable Promoted an interim CEO in the interim: yep His mate took his toys and left in response: seems OTT but that’s his problem. Not seeing the problem here?

I wouldn’t keep working for them. Sometimes there isn’t an optimal outcome, in which case it’s often best to cut losses and leave.

arp242 3y ago

How do you distinguish between an incompetent non-profit board and a board you disagree with? Outright "incompetence" in these types of things is hard to quantify. So I would deal with that by accepting there are people in the world who disagree with me and then using the normal methods of dealing with that, as difficult and frustrating as that can be. "I firmly believe in my right, and will do whatever it takes to get my way" is one of the quicker ways to completely corrupt both the general conversation and yourself. Because what if you're wrong? I can no longer address your actual arguments, because you keep them hidden from me. We can no longer compromise because I no longer know what you want.

junofan 3y ago
> How do you distinguish between an incompetent non-profit board and a board you disagree with? Take a look at the board composition and its recent actions.
- arp242 3y ago
  I have no idea what you're referring to as I don't follow these types of things day-to-day, but it absolutely baffles me that we're having this conversation in the first place and that people are seriously making a "it's okay to lie through your teeth if people are being stupid" argument. It's morally bankrupt, corrupting, and is utterly vile.
  - junofan 3y ago
    Never said it was okay to lie. I am saying a competent board could have handled things differently. Depending on what actually happened, everyone can be in the wrong here.
    - arp242 3y ago
      > Never said it was okay to lie. All your messages in this thread strongly suggest you do. e.g. "What’s he supposed to do?" certainly does not come across as a mark of disapproval and I have no idea how else to interpret this. If you meant to say something else then you should have said something clearer than a string of vague one-liners that signal approval in any common sense reading.
- FridgeSeal 3y ago
  It’s got some board members: tick. They got rid of a guy for lying to them: seems reasonable Promoted an interim CEO in the interim: yep His mate took his toys and left in response: seems OTT but that’s his problem. Not seeing the problem here?