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you're basically saying that his intentions weren't the problem, but that points out everything that's wrong with the situation. > anti-semitic white nationali

you're basically saying that his intentions weren't the problem, but that points out everything that's wrong with the situation. > anti-semitic white nationalist conspiracy theory and this, is somehow an attempt to skirt around what i'd already written. its not a conspiracy theory, its not white nationalist, its not antisemitic, its just an observation of dynamics between demographics over the latest in modern history. however, there is in fact a mainstream narrative that scares people with stories of nutjob right-wing conspiracy theories. and sure they exist, in extremely small numbers. the problem is that the people who push this narrative also ignore plenty of racism and spew plenty of conspiracy theories while ignoring extremism on their own side. and anything you say that can possibly look like you're within the bottom 1% of IQ on the right-wing extreme will be used against you through the power of misrepresentation, despite not having any relation nor any appreciation of it. there's nothing within the substance of the criticism that isn't used hypocritically against who its aimed at. all i want is to be casual again. over-analyzing simple remarks to attack an individual is a sign of genuine malice, there's more written between the lines of the actions taken against him than whatever meta-conversation someone might imply exists in the background of a single tweet.

anigbrowl 3y ago
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm quite clear on what I meant, thanks. all i want is to be casual again. over-analyzing simple remarks to attack an individual is a sign of genuine malice GMAFB. If Musk wants to be casual he can just have an anonymous shitposting account, and perhaps he does. You're asking that we just ignore his extremely vocal aspirations on free speech, on transforming Twitter into an 'everything app', on the commercial realities of social media data mining with all the implications for privacy, surveillance and so on, and on the fact that we're on a news website for hackers where we take pride in finding clever ways to store, sift, and exploit huge fields of data. It's asinine to expect that the guy with the not-inconsiderable personality cult also be treated as a regular goof with a bunch of low-IQ takes and immunized from criticism on that basis. Being casual is what anonymous posting is for. You can go to 4chan or wherever, shitpost, get things wrong, make an ass of yourself sometimes, and have conversations of no great consequence. I have done so for many years, and still do. Anonymous fora work because good or bad, popular or unpopular, your comments aren't tied to an identity and it frees you from a lot of ego traps as well as social restraints. Musk on the other hand is vocally against anonymity, often citing the need to fight spam (although I don't think he's sincere about this, given the way Twitter/X actually operates and the specific changes he's made around API access and how reports are handled). If he doesn't believe in anonymous shitposting, and thinks people on social media should own their posts, then it's not unreasonable for others (eg advertisers) to take teh same attitude toward him.

anigbrowl 3y ago

No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm quite clear on what I meant, thanks. all i want is to be casual again. over-analyzing simple remarks to attack an individual is a sign of genuine malice GMAFB. If Musk wants to be casual he can just have an anonymous shitposting account, and perhaps he does. You're asking that we just ignore his extremely vocal aspirations on free speech, on transforming Twitter into an 'everything app', on the commercial realities of social media data mining with all the implications for privacy, surveillance and so on, and on the fact that we're on a news website for hackers where we take pride in finding clever ways to store, sift, and exploit huge fields of data. It's asinine to expect that the guy with the not-inconsiderable personality cult also be treated as a regular goof with a bunch of low-IQ takes and immunized from criticism on that basis. Being casual is what anonymous posting is for. You can go to 4chan or wherever, shitpost, get things wrong, make an ass of yourself sometimes, and have conversations of no great consequence. I have done so for many years, and still do. Anonymous fora work because good or bad, popular or unpopular, your comments aren't tied to an identity and it frees you from a lot of ego traps as well as social restraints. Musk on the other hand is vocally against anonymity, often citing the need to fight spam (although I don't think he's sincere about this, given the way Twitter/X actually operates and the specific changes he's made around API access and how reports are handled). If he doesn't believe in anonymous shitposting, and thinks people on social media should own their posts, then it's not unreasonable for others (eg advertisers) to take teh same attitude toward him.