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Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

by kcb 3y ago

VirusNewbie 3y ago
What would they bring to the table? It doesn't seem like Greg Brockman brings more than Ilya, and what would sam do?
- kcb 3y ago
  A big investment from another trillion dollar tech company.
  - Keyframe 3y ago
    Join them up with Amodei again and.. going wild on speculation and fiction.. they fall back to Elon and Grok and it turns out it was his play all along?
    - jacooper 3y ago
      That's would be hilarious
- Sosh101 3y ago
  They'd bring to the table having been CEO and CTO of OpenAI. That's a lot of relevant knowledge and experience (the latter being the more important in this case).
  - bmitc 3y ago
    > the latter being the more important in this case Why is that?
beebmam 3y ago
Eventually being maybe 5+ years to build out the cloud tech to do so. The reason GPT-4 succeeded is massive RDMA+GPU compute clusters for training the model.
- KeplerBoy 3y ago
  Isn't that tech only one deal with MSFT away?
  - lucubratory 3y ago
    Microsoft already signed that deal with OpenAI, they can't break contract even if they did want to take an absolutely massive bet that the venture capital CEO and President can rebuild the technical infrastructure and acumen housed at OpenAI. OpenAI can replace Sam Altman and some of his newer hires, they probably can't replace Ilya Sutskever.
    - KeplerBoy 3y ago
      Microsoft is free to sign contracts with multiple entities at a time. I guess we'll see.
      - lucubratory 3y ago
        That's true. It would be a pretty huge bet to invest billions more dollars in an uncertain startup when they already have an AI provider that is guaranteed to be significantly technologically ahead of whatever Sam can pull together for at least several years in the future.
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Microsoft could unilaterally term the OpenAI agreement and let OpenAI fight them in court due to this substantial and material event. If OpenAI doesn’t have the cash on hand to survive the legal fight, the non profit dies eventually when they exhaust their resources. OpenAI only had resources because of Microsoft, and they bit the hand that feeds them.
YetAnotherNick 3y ago
It is already happening: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378

Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

by kcb 3y ago

Feels like the kind of situation where the two are just going to end up forming a new company that eventually surpasses OpenAI.

VirusNewbie 3y ago

What would they bring to the table? It doesn't seem like Greg Brockman brings more than Ilya, and what would sam do?

kcb 3y ago
A big investment from another trillion dollar tech company.
- Keyframe 3y ago
  Join them up with Amodei again and.. going wild on speculation and fiction.. they fall back to Elon and Grok and it turns out it was his play all along?
  - jacooper 3y ago
    That's would be hilarious
Sosh101 3y ago
They'd bring to the table having been CEO and CTO of OpenAI. That's a lot of relevant knowledge and experience (the latter being the more important in this case).
- bmitc 3y ago
  > the latter being the more important in this case Why is that?

beebmam 3y ago

Eventually being maybe 5+ years to build out the cloud tech to do so. The reason GPT-4 succeeded is massive RDMA+GPU compute clusters for training the model.

KeplerBoy 3y ago
Isn't that tech only one deal with MSFT away?
- lucubratory 3y ago
  Microsoft already signed that deal with OpenAI, they can't break contract even if they did want to take an absolutely massive bet that the venture capital CEO and President can rebuild the technical infrastructure and acumen housed at OpenAI. OpenAI can replace Sam Altman and some of his newer hires, they probably can't replace Ilya Sutskever.
  - KeplerBoy 3y ago
    Microsoft is free to sign contracts with multiple entities at a time. I guess we'll see.
    - lucubratory 3y ago
      That's true. It would be a pretty huge bet to invest billions more dollars in an uncertain startup when they already have an AI provider that is guaranteed to be significantly technologically ahead of whatever Sam can pull together for at least several years in the future.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Microsoft could unilaterally term the OpenAI agreement and let OpenAI fight them in court due to this substantial and material event. If OpenAI doesn’t have the cash on hand to survive the legal fight, the non profit dies eventually when they exhaust their resources. OpenAI only had resources because of Microsoft, and they bit the hand that feeds them.

YetAnotherNick 3y ago

It is already happening: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378