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Agreed, it implies he lied, but the board’s swiftness suggests enormous liability if they didn’t act immediately. An affair or HR issue could wait until after t

Agreed, it implies he lied, but the board’s swiftness suggests enormous liability if they didn’t act immediately. An affair or HR issue could wait until after the holidays, it feels like it’s something much more nefarious. Regardless of what, the longer OpenAI waits to explain, the more it could damage corporate and developer trust in using its AI.

zx8080 3y ago
> Regardless of what, the longer OpenAI waits to explain, the more it could damage corporate and developer trust in using its AI. I doubt anything can damage the almost religious belief in chatgpt today. The inertia is huge.
akudha 3y ago
I think people would forget this in a month, Sam would fail forward/upward, and it would be business as usual. You might be overestimating public’s interest and attention span. Pretty much nothing changed positively or significantly after Snowden revelations, Panama papers etc etc
andrewstuart 3y ago
>> it implies he lied It says he lied, explicitly, just with slightly nicer words. Whether he did or not, that is the definitive reason the board is giving.
- thelittleone 3y ago
  "Not being candid"? To me that implies not giving all information. Not necessarily lying. Am I wrong?
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    Lying by omission is still lying, and is especially a concern when you have a duty to the people who are deceiving, such as an executive has to their board.
    - thelittleone 3y ago
      Isn't that considered deceit rather than lying?[1] [1] ChatGPT "lying is defined as intentionally making a false statement. If you are omitting details but not actually stating anything false, this may not strictly meet the definition of a lie."
  - Paul-Craft 3y ago
    It implies they think he either lied or omitted crucial information.
  - meepmorp 3y ago
    That's corporate for "he's big ol' lying ass liar who lies."
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      Correction, its: "he's big ol' lying ass liar who lied to us."
      - meepmorp 3y ago
        Point taken.
- lmm 3y ago
  > It says he lied, explicitly, just with slightly nicer words. No it doesn't. "Not being candid" does not explicitly mean lying. It's like the old tea towel joke where the people at the bottom say "it's shit" and the manager one rung up says "it's manure" and the next one says "it's fertilizer" and by the time it's reached the CEO they're saying "it promotes growth".

zx8080 3y ago

> Regardless of what, the longer OpenAI waits to explain, the more it could damage corporate and developer trust in using its AI. I doubt anything can damage the almost religious belief in chatgpt today. The inertia is huge.

akudha 3y ago

I think people would forget this in a month, Sam would fail forward/upward, and it would be business as usual. You might be overestimating public’s interest and attention span. Pretty much nothing changed positively or significantly after Snowden revelations, Panama papers etc etc

andrewstuart 3y ago

>> it implies he lied It says he lied, explicitly, just with slightly nicer words. Whether he did or not, that is the definitive reason the board is giving.

thelittleone 3y ago
"Not being candid"? To me that implies not giving all information. Not necessarily lying. Am I wrong?
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  Lying by omission is still lying, and is especially a concern when you have a duty to the people who are deceiving, such as an executive has to their board.
  - thelittleone 3y ago
    Isn't that considered deceit rather than lying?[1] [1] ChatGPT "lying is defined as intentionally making a false statement. If you are omitting details but not actually stating anything false, this may not strictly meet the definition of a lie."
- Paul-Craft 3y ago
  It implies they think he either lied or omitted crucial information.
- meepmorp 3y ago
  That's corporate for "he's big ol' lying ass liar who lies."
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    Correction, its: "he's big ol' lying ass liar who lied to us."
    - meepmorp 3y ago
      Point taken.
lmm 3y ago
> It says he lied, explicitly, just with slightly nicer words. No it doesn't. "Not being candid" does not explicitly mean lying. It's like the old tea towel joke where the people at the bottom say "it's shit" and the manager one rung up says "it's manure" and the next one says "it's fertilizer" and by the time it's reached the CEO they're saying "it promotes growth".