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and what pray-tell are those?

otteromkram 3y ago
DuckDuckGo is a great internet search tool if you don't want to muddy up your Google history (which is very understandable).
nkurz 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072
- xkqd 3y ago
  In all my time here, I have never seen this “Sorry.” page before. Does anyone know what that’s about?
  - Sebb767 3y ago
    See the pinned comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310213 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310213
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    Its a about the CEO of the leading firm in the area of tech most at the center of technical and political controversy and interest right now being forced out by their board, when that CEO had, even before taking on that role, particular high salience among the HN audience as, among other things, the former head of YC, and the resulting (I am assuming from the oerformance and dangs description) state of near-meltdown of HNs servers.
  - nightpool 3y ago
    The "Sorry" page is a standard HN error message that shows up when the server is under high load, it has nothing to do with this link specifically
jug 3y ago
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... Sexual abuse by Sam when she was four years old and he 13. Develops PCOS (which has seen some association with child abuse) and childhood OCD and depression. Thrown out. Begins working as sex worker for survival. It's a real grim story.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  > "{I experienced} Shadowbanning across all platforms except onlyfans and pornhub. Also had 6 months of hacking into almost all my accounts and wifi when I first started the podcast" So either sama is hacking "into her wifi" (?), hacking into her accounts, and pulling strings at unrelated companies to get her shadowbanned from Facebook, Instagram, YouTube etc (is that even a thing?)... or Occam's Razor applies and he didn't.
  - SXX 3y ago
    Shadowbanning certainly exists on all social platforms. Light version of it is how Facebook sells ad services - no one following your page sees content unless you pay.
  - mylidlpony 3y ago
    You can add suppressing on hn to the list: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072
    - dredmorbius 3y ago
      Per dang, that's a consequence of user flags: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311933> This is hardly unexpected for profound allegations without strong supporting evidence, and yes, I'm well aware that presentation of any evidence would be difficult to validate on HN, such that a third-party assessment (as in a court of law, for example) would typically be required. I'm not claiming that HN has a stellar record of dealing with unpleasant news or inconvenient facts. But that any such bias originates from YC rather than reader responses and general algorithmic treatments (e.g., "flamewar detector") is itself strongly unsupported, and your characterisation above really is beyond the pale.
Probiotic6081 3y ago
Sam Altman's sister says he sexually abused her when she was 4 https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/1635704398939832321 https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232...
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Sam Altman's sister says he sexually abused her when she was 4 ... and he was 13. Which, yes, is a very bad thing, but unless the company investigated that claim (e.g., to assess potential PR fallout) and there was some significant deception by Altman against the board in the context of that investigation, its not something that would get him fired with the explanation OpenAI has provided. (OTOH, the accusation and its potential PR impact could be a factor that weighed into how the board handled an unrelated problem with Altman—it certainly isn't helpful to him.)
  - mardifoufs 3y ago
    I... don't agree at all? Actually I can't imagine a single board who would keep a CEO if credible allegations of raping his own sister were going around. It's not just an age issue (which is still a huge wtf, 13yo is old enough to know about right and wrong in the context of his own sister), it's also the incest part. I'm not saying this happened or it didn't. But just that it could absolutely be more than enough to fire anyone.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      The “with the explanation OpenAI has provided” in GP was substantive, not decorative. I don't disagree that the accusation alone (especially if it stood up to modest scrutiny, and looked to be ongoing PR issue, even if not well substantiated enough to have confidence that it was likely to be true) might be sufficient for firing; CEOs are the public and and internal face of the firm, and so PR or employee safety concerns that attach to them are important to the firm. But it wouldn't be for lack of candor with the board unless there was something for which the board had a very strong reason to believe Altman was dishonest in a significant way. They could easily fire him with the lack of confidence language without the lack of candor language.

DuckDuckGo is a great internet search tool if you don't want to muddy up your Google history (which is very understandable).

nkurz 3y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072

xkqd 3y ago
In all my time here, I have never seen this “Sorry.” page before. Does anyone know what that’s about?
- Sebb767 3y ago
  See the pinned comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310213 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310213
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  Its a about the CEO of the leading firm in the area of tech most at the center of technical and political controversy and interest right now being forced out by their board, when that CEO had, even before taking on that role, particular high salience among the HN audience as, among other things, the former head of YC, and the resulting (I am assuming from the oerformance and dangs description) state of near-meltdown of HNs servers.
- nightpool 3y ago
  The "Sorry" page is a standard HN error message that shows up when the server is under high load, it has nothing to do with this link specifically

jug 3y ago

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... Sexual abuse by Sam when she was four years old and he 13. Develops PCOS (which has seen some association with child abuse) and childhood OCD and depression. Thrown out. Begins working as sex worker for survival. It's a real grim story.

resolutebat 3y ago
> "{I experienced} Shadowbanning across all platforms except onlyfans and pornhub. Also had 6 months of hacking into almost all my accounts and wifi when I first started the podcast" So either sama is hacking "into her wifi" (?), hacking into her accounts, and pulling strings at unrelated companies to get her shadowbanned from Facebook, Instagram, YouTube etc (is that even a thing?)... or Occam's Razor applies and he didn't.
- SXX 3y ago
  Shadowbanning certainly exists on all social platforms. Light version of it is how Facebook sells ad services - no one following your page sees content unless you pay.
- mylidlpony 3y ago
  You can add suppressing on hn to the list: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37785072
  - dredmorbius 3y ago
    Per dang, that's a consequence of user flags: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311933> This is hardly unexpected for profound allegations without strong supporting evidence, and yes, I'm well aware that presentation of any evidence would be difficult to validate on HN, such that a third-party assessment (as in a court of law, for example) would typically be required. I'm not claiming that HN has a stellar record of dealing with unpleasant news or inconvenient facts. But that any such bias originates from YC rather than reader responses and general algorithmic treatments (e.g., "flamewar detector") is itself strongly unsupported, and your characterisation above really is beyond the pale.

Probiotic6081 3y ago

Sam Altman's sister says he sexually abused her when she was 4 https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/1635704398939832321 https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232...

dragonwriter 3y ago
> Sam Altman's sister says he sexually abused her when she was 4 ... and he was 13. Which, yes, is a very bad thing, but unless the company investigated that claim (e.g., to assess potential PR fallout) and there was some significant deception by Altman against the board in the context of that investigation, its not something that would get him fired with the explanation OpenAI has provided. (OTOH, the accusation and its potential PR impact could be a factor that weighed into how the board handled an unrelated problem with Altman—it certainly isn't helpful to him.)
- mardifoufs 3y ago
  I... don't agree at all? Actually I can't imagine a single board who would keep a CEO if credible allegations of raping his own sister were going around. It's not just an age issue (which is still a huge wtf, 13yo is old enough to know about right and wrong in the context of his own sister), it's also the incest part. I'm not saying this happened or it didn't. But just that it could absolutely be more than enough to fire anyone.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    The “with the explanation OpenAI has provided” in GP was substantive, not decorative. I don't disagree that the accusation alone (especially if it stood up to modest scrutiny, and looked to be ongoing PR issue, even if not well substantiated enough to have confidence that it was likely to be true) might be sufficient for firing; CEOs are the public and and internal face of the firm, and so PR or employee safety concerns that attach to them are important to the firm. But it wouldn't be for lack of candor with the board unless there was something for which the board had a very strong reason to believe Altman was dishonest in a significant way. They could easily fire him with the lack of confidence language without the lack of candor language.