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Sam Altman tweet after being fired
- evilai 3y agoi loved my time at openai. it was transformative for me personally, and hopefully the world a little bit. most of all i loved working with such talented people. will have more to say about what’s next later.
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- nkurz 3y ago(if not clear, this is the contents of Sam's linked Tweet)
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- sushisource 3y agoNot the deepest topic, but: Can someone explain to me why there seems to be such a high correlation between being high on the totem pole and lazy bits of written word? In this case, Sam can't be assed to bother with capital letters. For other people, it's abbreviations or some other unnecessary bit of laziness. I don't get it. In my experience the higher up you are in management the more you do this sort of thing.
- postalrat 3y agoI'd guess because they have nothing to prove.
- squigz 3y agoThey arguably have more to prove than most people, since they're under much more constant scrutiny
- lostlogin 3y agoAnd going with this, they use their time wisely, not to add punctuation to boilerplate tweets.
- 12ab3c 3y agoI think it's an affectation more than anything else. For an educated person typing on devices with, at a minimum, autocorrect for capitalization, I think it has to be a conscious choice. The worst part of me says it is ego/arrogance played off as a casualness or being beyond triviality.
- hackerbeat 3y agoAgreed. "Look, world, I care so little about being dumped, I don't even need to make an effort. Plus, I've got brains and more money than I can count." Next level: Bond villain.
- postalrat 3y agoMaybe if all his posts before today weren't all lowercase.
- hackerbeat 3y agoThat makes it even worse. So well-known and so much responsibility, yet so little care. If he can't even be professional when tweeting, why should we trust him with more? Probably good he's gone.
- behnamoh 3y agoor maybe they know that using capital letters and such is just a convention that doesnt hinder understanding of text. if you could read my comment then i've proven my point.
- tayo42 3y ago> typing on devices with, at a minimum, autocorrect for capitalization, posting from a windows laptop and Firefox, i get no autocorrect for grammar like capitalization. only firefox was detected as a work that needed to be capitalized.
- waynesonfire 3y agoi think it's asking the wrong question. more interesting would be to understand how their style changed prior to becoming ceo.
- CamperBob2 3y ago"what are ya gonna do, fire me? lol" - sama
- solardev 3y agoIt's the same reason Zucky wears a hoodie and Musk smokes blunts on TV. they dgaf :)
- enumjorge 3y agoI think it's less that they dgaf, and more that they are working really hard to create a personal brand of someone who dgaf.
- rightbyte 3y agoI don't know about Zuckerberg but Musk is a workaholic nanomanager. I am quite certain he do gaf. Like, the type that would relentlessly and unilaterally enforce no-tabs in the code base, no matter how many hours wasted.
- rubyn00bie 3y agoThey're often very busy people responding to a LOT of messages/emails/things. It's better/easier to just write your thought and hit send because you actually get it done. If you think about it too much it really does slow you down. For important things, I'm sure they're all capable of writing with correct grammar but for things that are unimportant-- just mash the keys and hit send.
- pointlessone 3y agoJobs written well. The laziest he was is he never changed his email signature on his iPhone and iPad.
- stranded22 3y agoI’ve had a few company’s I’ve dealt with where the ceo writes: name hi, And it really throws me - I’m spending hours ensuring my emails / communication covers all angles and then they reply with this salutation.
- chmod775 3y agoWhere I come from that means you can adopt a looser style as well, and don't need to bother writing formally with that person. It's considered "friendly". In fact in German it would be really awkward if one person stuck to formal language when the other makes an attempt to be informal - sticking to it is like saying "keep your distance" and could be a little hurtful for the person who tried to be informal. I'm curious how this is supposed to play out in English.
- stranded22 3y agoVery interesting take, thank you
- upon_drumhead 3y agoAbout 5 years ago, my CEO emailed me with something like 'yo! can you do me a favor'. Middle management was CCed on the email thread and when I responded something like 'Sure! Happy to help', I was chewed out by my director for being informal and thus disrespectful...
- jyunwai 3y agoThat is an excessive response by the director. I wonder if the CEO would have approved of the director's comment if you emailed an apology to the CEO, identifying that the director made the comment ("I apologize for the excessive informal language in my email, as noted by Director X; I look forward to completing the assignment."), as the CEO may have deliberately been trying to create an environment where seniors are more approachable. In any case, I try to always write in full sentences for professional communications as a minimum (even if there are sprinkles of informal language)—I'm more comfortable writing this way at work, and it has the added benefit that it's hard for a third party to make a similar comment like you've experienced. (At the other end, it can also be seen as too stiff and uncomfortable to be overly formal, even to supervisors. I've seen this where I had a direct report who was excessively formal at first. By encouraging him to open up and speak more openly, I believe that created a foundation for a more trusting work environment over time, which encouraged him to take more initiative and share his ideas when solving some problems that we were later facing as a team.)
- justrealist 3y agoThere's some Picasso quote about like, you have to demonstrate you can follow the rules before you can break the rules. Grammar and punctuation is a competence signal, but once you've demonstrated you can do it (by getting to the top) it's not necessary.
- thelittleone 3y agoReminds me of when drivers of expensive cars don't indicate when changing lanes.
- asfarley 3y agoNot needing to add padding is a form of status signaling
- I_am_tiberius 3y agoI guess this can be considered a Machine Learning question. At least I assume we can try to answer it using linear regression.
- thelazydogsback 3y agoe.e. cummings was such as asshole :)
- kredd 3y agoHe’s not exactly in the age group, but quite a lot of young people have auto-capitalization disabled on their phone. Basically aesthetics. At the end of the day, as time goes on, the methods of communications change as well. It does not exactly correlate one’s intelligence, intent, societal status or whatsoever. Prevalent use of emojis would be the simplest example.
- zuramai 3y agoHow could disabling auto-capitalization influence aesthetics?
- ra0x3 3y agoi’ll bite. it might sound dumb to you, but not capitalizing sentences properly amongst certain groups effectively means you’re not concerned with the optics of being viewed as someone who “doesn’t know grammar”. it sort’ve displays a certain “I know proper grammar but I don’t really care to prove it to you”. edit: and as others mention, it can be seen as less formal and friendly as well don’t shoot the messenger :)
- nikodotio 3y agopersonally i just find this easier to read. capitalization breaks flow and parsing for me.
- dsgnr 3y agoalso: mobile autocorrect is garbage on so many devices its better to just turn it off. no one has time to shift case on mobile manually.
- jondwillis 3y agoi turned it off on a whim, but this is the reason why i keep it off.
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- atleastoptimal 3y agoit's soft spokenness conveyed orthographically
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- nabla9 3y agoIt's not uncommon practice that originates from newspapers. Writing all low case is way to make sure that everybody understand the writing is just a draft, not ready for printing, or not final or official correspondence. Editor could not just send it to press without proofreading and editing it.
- gerdesj 3y agoI disagree. It is either simply lazy or (charitable interpretation) ... lazy. No journo. or professional writer I know would ever forget to hit the shift key for some sort of weird "convenience". It is harder to write all lower case prose. Hit . + and you are primed to hold left shift for the next character with your left or right small finger (pinkie). We humans mostly have five digits per hand. Even a single finger "poker" will manage to hit shift too, when appropriate. Many years ago I used to teach a hand written correction markup used on manuscripts. Delta for delete, triple underline for change of case, the correct way to route clause moves etc. You put the change in the body and a symbol in the left margin for each change. To accommodate these changes you use 1.5 or double space inter line in your draft. You might also allow a slightly larger margin but that is generally optional and probably wasteful. The marginal indicator markers can be a bit "loose" - its hand written so an asterisk and a foot note is always an option for really tricky cases. When it gets too bad, the spike is the final home for the piece (or an open fire). Your experience of journalism is rather different to mine.
- nabla9 3y agoAll low caps is faster if you need to write as fast as possible. Think news wire people reporting news like "three shots were fired at president kennedy's motorcade in downdown dallas". The old teletype machines had only one case anyway.
- gerdesj 3y agoI'm 53. Morse and teletype were both well before my time - I did not have to engage with either directly. I recall that a "wire" was sent in all uppercase, with STOP for full stop/period. My mother used a manual typewriter and then later golf ball etc. I did too. She and I were virtually incapable of not using shift. Smacking physical keys is rather satisfying and you tend to pause first before hitting them. Its a very different discipline to modern word processing. Worrying about case will come very low down the pecking order compared to speling (lol).
- goertzen 3y agoIt happens everywhere and with everyone. I wouldn’t read into it that much. Personally I find the lack of capitalism more sincere and I see everyone at every level on the totem do it.
- cedws 3y agoNot "high on the totem pole" but I type like this on work chat because I want to get the message across quickly and punctation doesn't matter. For emails or other communications I always use proper punctuation.
- hilux 3y agoi see no such correlation you have been misled by sample bias people lower down in the org do the same or worse basically under-35s view punctuation and speaking in complete sentences as boomer artefacts not my choice just telling it like i see it
- gerdesj 3y agoIt looks very childish to me. Capitalisation and punctuation provides a form and rhythm to written prose. When you scan (English) prose, your eyes very quickly pick up the start and end of a clause or sentence via the capitol letters and certain marks. English lacks nearly all accents and other "letter adjuster marks" that other languages enjoy. That generally means that when you see a mark of some sort in an English sentence it is a form of containment and not a change of sound. That means we have a lot less sound adjusters, which means we end up with a lot more "local knowledge". A silly example: Slough and slough - the first is a town in Berkshire and the second is what snakes and crabs etc do to their skins/carapaces to grow to the next size. That said, English is extraordinarily tolerant of pronunciation in most cases. You may not know the "correct" sound of a word but a bit of a dabble (try slightly different approaches) will get you there.
- luigi23 3y agoi just want to dump my thoughts on internet and indicate that im on the go. orthography adds extra layer of complexity and its already pretty tough for me to force myself to write aynwhere. adhd things. but yeah, its boomer artifact.
- tennisflyi 3y agoBecause he has no scribe now - it’s real Sam. An architect drawn some chicken scratch on a napkin and others make it happen. Also, how is the prose in the Google emails from the trial? This is the Guggenheim, https://architectelevator.com/architecture/famous-architects-sketch/ https://architectelevator.com/architecture/famous-architects...
- partiallypro 3y agoSomething someone pointed out is that buried in the lede is that Brockman stepped down as President, though he may have led Altman's demise?
- fredgrott 3y agoboard member allegiances may have changed hence need for new CEO and president of the Board.
- segmondy 3y agoWhat's lazy about it?! You still understood the message
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- famouswaffles 3y agoJimmy Apples strikes again. https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1725615804631392637?s=46&t=yQ_4zkmWd6ncIZAnXlXUbg https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1725615804631392637?... If there was any doubt he had insider knowledge, it's gone now.
- swyx 3y agoorrr he tweets out random stuff and this one happened to line up. this has all the precision of a tarot card
- famouswaffles 3y agoThis isn't the only thing he's gotten right, just the latest. Aside from this, You can't drop internal project names or company release dates months and weeks before time without being in the know somehow. Random isn't that good lol.
- quixoticaxolotl 3y agoI mean, the Simpsons has predicted several monumental events multiple times in its history. Random can be just that good.
- famouswaffles 3y agoThe Simpsons has a few vaguely similar outcomes over decades of saying random shit. It's not the same at all.
- fauzanhilmi 3y agoLooking forward to what he will do next. If it's ChatGPT's competitor, AI landscape will be spicy & exciting
- seydor 3y agoLater. Well, it is now later sama. We demand answers