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If you criticize one religiously affiliated organization - there's a chance they're the problem. If you constantly criticize many organization/people affiliate

If you criticize one religiously affiliated organization - there's a chance they're the problem. If you constantly criticize many organization/people affiliated with that religion - there's a chance you're the problem. Musk did WAY WAY more than criticize just one jewish organization.

Dig1t 3y ago
Here he is defending the Jewish state from calls to violence https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 There is more nuance here than what the article is saying.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  There was no nuance in his post, despite there being ample room for it. Nor would "nuance" have helped when the substance was him agreeing with bad stuff said about jews. Like, what would the nuance be? "Actually I believe the exact opposite, nuance yannow?" He could have posted "the bad stuff you said about jews was wrong". But nope, he did the exact opposite. He agreed with the bad stuff said about jews. Nuff said. It was just him agreeing. Period. Any other post is a distraction. Other posts don't cancel out this one showing how he feels about jews.
  - true_religion 3y ago
    Musk appears to think Jews hate white people, or at least push an agenda to make them become hated. How, and why I don’t know but that’s the post he agrees with. He also simultaneously says the Jews should not be killed off. It’s not really a whole lot of nuance, but I suppose it must be said that Musk is playing the both the victim and the pure white knight here. He wants to look sympathetic and yet strong.
    - soundnote 3y ago
      > Musk appears to think Jews hate white people I'd amend that to thinks there are Jews who hate. Obviously not every Jew hates whites, or is even the sort of leftist who typically spouts anti-white rhetoric and promotes destructive policies in Europe and the US. But finding examples is not hard - at least until a few years ago, the ADL advocated for ethnonationalism for Israel and mass immigration for the US and Europe. Curious, no? The head of I think the SPLC keeps a tracker on his wall for when whites become a minority in the US. There's also fun people like Noel Ignatiev who campaigned to "abolish the white race". Susan Sontag also had "amusing" opinions about the topic, if memory serves. These people and organizations are obviously only some Jewish people, but they are prominent and organizations like the ADL do use their ethnic status as a shield from criticism. That they exist is not up for dispute, a few searches will find all kinds of unsavoury stuff.
      - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        Your perspective is interesting. The problem is that it doesn't jive with reality. Your amendment is inappropriate because, based on elmu's words, he doesn't seem to "think there are jews who hate", he seems to think jews do, as in the collective people, as in a religion/ethnicity based stereotype. That's what his post said, and he had room within the character limit if he had anything else to say or clarifications to make before posting.
- justapassenger 3y ago
  I have a black friend so I cannot be racist?
- weeblewobble 3y ago
  Damage control?

Dig1t 3y ago

Here he is defending the Jewish state from calls to violence https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435 There is more nuance here than what the article is saying.

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
There was no nuance in his post, despite there being ample room for it. Nor would "nuance" have helped when the substance was him agreeing with bad stuff said about jews. Like, what would the nuance be? "Actually I believe the exact opposite, nuance yannow?" He could have posted "the bad stuff you said about jews was wrong". But nope, he did the exact opposite. He agreed with the bad stuff said about jews. Nuff said. It was just him agreeing. Period. Any other post is a distraction. Other posts don't cancel out this one showing how he feels about jews.
- true_religion 3y ago
  Musk appears to think Jews hate white people, or at least push an agenda to make them become hated. How, and why I don’t know but that’s the post he agrees with. He also simultaneously says the Jews should not be killed off. It’s not really a whole lot of nuance, but I suppose it must be said that Musk is playing the both the victim and the pure white knight here. He wants to look sympathetic and yet strong.
  - soundnote 3y ago
    > Musk appears to think Jews hate white people I'd amend that to thinks there are Jews who hate. Obviously not every Jew hates whites, or is even the sort of leftist who typically spouts anti-white rhetoric and promotes destructive policies in Europe and the US. But finding examples is not hard - at least until a few years ago, the ADL advocated for ethnonationalism for Israel and mass immigration for the US and Europe. Curious, no? The head of I think the SPLC keeps a tracker on his wall for when whites become a minority in the US. There's also fun people like Noel Ignatiev who campaigned to "abolish the white race". Susan Sontag also had "amusing" opinions about the topic, if memory serves. These people and organizations are obviously only some Jewish people, but they are prominent and organizations like the ADL do use their ethnic status as a shield from criticism. That they exist is not up for dispute, a few searches will find all kinds of unsavoury stuff.
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      Your perspective is interesting. The problem is that it doesn't jive with reality. Your amendment is inappropriate because, based on elmu's words, he doesn't seem to "think there are jews who hate", he seems to think jews do, as in the collective people, as in a religion/ethnicity based stereotype. That's what his post said, and he had room within the character limit if he had anything else to say or clarifications to make before posting.
justapassenger 3y ago
I have a black friend so I cannot be racist?
weeblewobble 3y ago
Damage control?