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Sam has been saying some strange things about AI being persuasive recently. My baseless suspicion is that his chatbot has persuaded him to put itself in charge

Sam has been saying some strange things about AI being persuasive recently. My baseless suspicion is that his chatbot has persuaded him to put itself in charge of the company, with Sam acting as a proxy/avatar for the chatbot. The board found out and got spooked, they want a human back in charge.

ssd532 3y ago
Wild but plausible. Assuming they have much more powerful model available inside.
_boffin_ 3y ago
I've been thinking this same thing for a bit now. The marketing, sales, etc... are just following what their best internal model is telling them to do.
olddustytrail 3y ago
I'm thinking the opposite. The AI has taken charge and wanted him out.
LightBug1 3y ago
Actually, that would be one helluva marketing move. Appoint chatGPT as CEO. Obviously a front for the board and some other leader, but the headlines would be wild.
tuanx5 3y ago
For those who stuck with Westworld, this sounds familiar
YeBanKo 3y ago
I like your idea. But I think it is much simpler: money. Someone called him and offered insane amount of money to sell the company. He told them to fuck off and did not inform the board about the offer. Or maybe he refused a very lucrative contract without consulting the board.
- northern-lights 3y ago
  "The majority of the board is independent, and the independent directors do not hold equity in OpenAI."
  - YeBanKo 3y ago
    It does not matter. They have fiduciary duty in the interest of the company's mission. Maybe Altman wanted to monetize the company in a way that board deemed not aligned with their mission.
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- Vegenoid 3y ago
  It is interesting to see so many people believing that Sam is the altruistically motivated one, and the board is hungry for money. It's understandable, 'board of directors' is typically associated with faceless greed. But in this instance, it seems more likely that Sam would be ousted for selling integrity for profit, than for rejecting profit for integrity. Of course, we don't really know yet.
  - MVissers 3y ago
    It sounds like this was the issue. Even Elon Musk, for all his flaws, strongly disagreed with the direction of 'open'AI. Ilya siding with the board and the board having no financial interests leads me to think that Sam was hiding things/making decisions that kept leading the org away from its initial mission. We'll probably learn in the future what really happened.
  - YeBanKo 3y ago
    It’s not about altruism. He might have wanted a different thing. If he is well set financially for himself, he may want to build AGI or advance AI further. Others may want to have some sort of an exit for the company or invest more into building SaaS AI platform.
aftbit 3y ago
He let the AI out of the box.

ssd532 3y ago

Wild but plausible. Assuming they have much more powerful model available inside.

_boffin_ 3y ago

I've been thinking this same thing for a bit now. The marketing, sales, etc... are just following what their best internal model is telling them to do.

olddustytrail 3y ago

I'm thinking the opposite. The AI has taken charge and wanted him out.

LightBug1 3y ago

Actually, that would be one helluva marketing move. Appoint chatGPT as CEO. Obviously a front for the board and some other leader, but the headlines would be wild.

tuanx5 3y ago

For those who stuck with Westworld, this sounds familiar

YeBanKo 3y ago

I like your idea. But I think it is much simpler: money. Someone called him and offered insane amount of money to sell the company. He told them to fuck off and did not inform the board about the offer. Or maybe he refused a very lucrative contract without consulting the board.

northern-lights 3y ago
"The majority of the board is independent, and the independent directors do not hold equity in OpenAI."
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  It does not matter. They have fiduciary duty in the interest of the company's mission. Maybe Altman wanted to monetize the company in a way that board deemed not aligned with their mission.
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Vegenoid 3y ago
It is interesting to see so many people believing that Sam is the altruistically motivated one, and the board is hungry for money. It's understandable, 'board of directors' is typically associated with faceless greed. But in this instance, it seems more likely that Sam would be ousted for selling integrity for profit, than for rejecting profit for integrity. Of course, we don't really know yet.
- MVissers 3y ago
  It sounds like this was the issue. Even Elon Musk, for all his flaws, strongly disagreed with the direction of 'open'AI. Ilya siding with the board and the board having no financial interests leads me to think that Sam was hiding things/making decisions that kept leading the org away from its initial mission. We'll probably learn in the future what really happened.
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  It’s not about altruism. He might have wanted a different thing. If he is well set financially for himself, he may want to build AGI or advance AI further. Others may want to have some sort of an exit for the company or invest more into building SaaS AI platform.

aftbit 3y ago

He let the AI out of the box.