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Hardly. Yet another storm in a teacup to drive up emotions again. Hence 'pause'. Pausing advertising for Twitter / X to clean up the mess on there and once eve

by rvz 3y ago

Hardly. Yet another storm in a teacup to drive up emotions again. Hence 'pause'. Pausing advertising for Twitter / X to clean up the mess on there and once everyone has calmed down for bit and is fed up with the coverage of Elon Musk 24/7 in their heads, Apple (and IBM) will continue to advertise once again, business as usual. I'm yet to see the uproar by Apple fans of Apple's so-called 'ethics' in China whilst they're profiting and benefiting from forced labor, just like when Facebook was called out for profiting from a genocide. Exactly. There is none.

dgb23 3y ago
It seems like people care more about internet drama than about actual exploitation and oppression… The former seems to be something we can get involved in, but the latter seems insurmountable.
dylan604 3y ago
Unless Musk sales Twitt...er, X, when do you think coversation will not be about him?
wwtrv 3y ago
> Apple's so-called 'ethics' in China whilst they're profiting and benefiting from forced labor Just like almost every single other company which is making consumer electronics? And I don't think the conditions in Foxconn factories making Apple stuff are below average working conditions wise compare to the rest of China.
true_religion 3y ago
The worry about China is odd. Human rights abuses are illegal in theory. If the US, believes China is so corrupt that it turns a blind eye to slavery then it should ban trade with that burgeoning slave state. We shouldn’t expect companies to do investigative work into actual crimes, nor make judgements about the morality of international trade. Lately it seems that people no longer look to governments to do their job. People ask for Uber to investigate rape cases, rather than the police. People expect universities to determine guilt on felony cases, rather than the actual judicial system. We should stop. We set up centralized government so we would end private fiefdoms. We cannot give private groups this sort of mandate. They don’t deserve it and cannot be trusted with it.

by rvz 3y ago

dgb23 3y ago

It seems like people care more about internet drama than about actual exploitation and oppression… The former seems to be something we can get involved in, but the latter seems insurmountable.

dylan604 3y ago

Unless Musk sales Twitt...er, X, when do you think coversation will not be about him?

wwtrv 3y ago

> Apple's so-called 'ethics' in China whilst they're profiting and benefiting from forced labor Just like almost every single other company which is making consumer electronics? And I don't think the conditions in Foxconn factories making Apple stuff are below average working conditions wise compare to the rest of China.

true_religion 3y ago

The worry about China is odd. Human rights abuses are illegal in theory. If the US, believes China is so corrupt that it turns a blind eye to slavery then it should ban trade with that burgeoning slave state. We shouldn’t expect companies to do investigative work into actual crimes, nor make judgements about the morality of international trade. Lately it seems that people no longer look to governments to do their job. People ask for Uber to investigate rape cases, rather than the police. People expect universities to determine guilt on felony cases, rather than the actual judicial system. We should stop. We set up centralized government so we would end private fiefdoms. We cannot give private groups this sort of mandate. They don’t deserve it and cannot be trusted with it.