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Of course no one is happy about cuts to vital services like the library. But people are also unhappy with a 3% minimum city income tax and a $5 billion budget s
by David_Axelrod 3y ago
Of course no one is happy about cuts to vital services like the library. But people are also unhappy with a 3% minimum city income tax and a $5 billion budget shortfall.
Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
- KerrAvon 3y agoWell, give more money to the cops. That'll fix everything.
- CrazyPyroLinux 3y ago[flagged]
- CrazyPyroLinux 3y agoLooks like I hit a nerve - Apparently you can criticize working cops, but not illegal immigrants. In their own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dh1waEkrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dh1waEkrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvmJjhk6Gsg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvmJjhk6Gsg
- ipaddr 3y agoThis is the problem the mayor is trying to get help with. The number of illegal immigrants this year has skyrocketed and it's bankrupting the city.
- freeopinion 3y agoWell if that all it is, there's a simple solution. Make all the illegal immigrants legal. Then the budget for illegal immigrants goes to $0.
- NovemberWhiskey 3y agoFirstly; that would be a Federal problem, not something that the City can do anything about. Secondly; even if they were illegal immigrants (which is undetermined at this point; most of them claim asylum and have had no determination made for their case) they would still have had the right to shelter under City law.
- freeopinion 3y agoSo you're saying that illegal immigration isn't really the problem?
- NovemberWhiskey 3y agoI'm saying that the arrival of a large number of people, who are legally unable to work, and who have no support system from families, and whom the City is legally obliged to house is a problem.
- CrazyPyroLinux 3y agoAnd "inflation is transitory!" And "the chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grams!"
- pseg134 3y agoThe NYPD is skipping an entire Academy class because of the cuts. It was uniform to every city agency.
- NovemberWhiskey 3y agoFive classes if I remember correctly; there are usually four classes per year.
- David_Axelrod 3y agoThe police budget is ~6 billion, out of about a $110.5 billion budget [0] https://www.nyc.gov/site/omb/publications/agency-budgets-projections.page?projection=056 https://www.nyc.gov/site/omb/publications/agency-budgets-pro... [1] https://www.nyc.gov/assets/omb/downloads/pdf/fp11-23.pdf https://www.nyc.gov/assets/omb/downloads/pdf/fp11-23.pdf
- syspec 3y agoThat's too high for what they do (or don't do)
- woodruffw 3y agoThat's before overtime, which the NYPD routinely abuses to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars annually[1]. [1]: https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/nypd-overspending-on-overtime-grew-dramatically-in-recent-years/ https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/nypd-overspending-on-ov...
- Avshalom 3y agogreat thats a billion dollars left for them after NYC covers the budget shortfall.
- CrazyPyroLinux 3y agoLooks like I hit a nerve - Apparently you can criticize working cops, but not illegal immigrants. In their own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dh1waEkrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dh1waEkrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvmJjhk6Gsg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvmJjhk6Gsg
- gemstones 3y agoOh man, I didn’t realize it was 3%! NYC has a ton of people at the top of their fields in a really dense setting. I wonder what city services cause such a big shortfall! On paper it should be easier to finance NYC than any other big city, so I wonder where the money goes. Or an I incorrect and the city is poorer than I think? Perhaps Long Island sucks more incomes away from the city than I thought?
- David_Axelrod 3y agoAbout $32 billion comes from property taxes and $38 billion from "other taxes" (mostly income tax). [0] https://www.nyc.gov/assets/omb/downloads/pdf/fp11-23.pdf https://www.nyc.gov/assets/omb/downloads/pdf/fp11-23.pdf
- ipaddr 3y agoThe mayor of NYC has been talking about illegal immigration scaling up this year costing the city billions.
- NovemberWhiskey 3y agoEverything in NYC is expensive. We spend almost $40,000 per year on each public school student. Construction is hugely expensive. The Department of Corrections has 1.4 corrections officers for every person incarcerated.
- mschuster91 3y agoSimple solution, imprison less people. NYC prisons are notorious for overcrowding for decades now [1] [2]. It's shocking for me as a German that this seems to have been a consistent fact of life that's just accepted by everyone and nothing is being done - no new prisons are built to offer more space for prisoners, and nothing is being done to reduce the amount of people heading towards prison. [1] https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/prison-and-jail-overcrowding-new-york-state https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/prison-a... [2] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/new-york-post-photos-show-horrific-overcrowding-at-rikers.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/new-york-post-photos...
- xxpor 3y agoMaybe they should figure out how to build a library for less than $2100 a sq ft https://twitter.com/MarketUrbanism/status/1187045480540323841 https://twitter.com/MarketUrbanism/status/118704548054032384...
- Digory 3y agoSurely there are other cuts with less impact. I suspect many more users would rather they redirect the ample Private Foundation funds for "NYPL LIVE" stage events (December: "Lesbian Poetic Traditions") to staying open on Sundays. But Library management wants to host cool friends AND generate angry voters. I see this pattern often in government budget showdowns; the tiniest cuts produce outsized service impacts.
- gosub100 3y ago[flagged]
- stetrain 3y agoGood thing that libraries also provide digital information services, including digital book rentals and digital records and academic publication searches. As well as facilities to access those services if you do not have an adequate computer, internet connection, or subscription access to these resources at home.
- cakeface 3y agoTax the billionaires. Tax the vacant real estate holdings at the high end. Tax short term rentals.
- CraigRo 3y agoWe lost net 10 of them costing hundreds of millions of dollars already. Short term rentals were basically banned outright. Not very many vacant real estate holdings, and how are you going to prove that they were sufficiently vacant -- going to roust them all at night? City needs to actually get its act together to become more efficient.
- DANmode 3y ago> Tax short term rentals. Careful. Don't fuck over the transient or temporarily (permanently!) displaced with these broad strokes.
- stetrain 3y agoA quick google says the proposed city library budget was $471.5 million and the total city budget is $107 billion. That's less than half a percent of the overall budget.