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Coral is 4 years old, and it's both shocking & not that there aren't many competitors out there today. Also a bit sad PyCoral requires python 3.9! Yikes!
by jauntywundrkind 3y ago
Coral is 4 years old, and it's both shocking & not that there aren't many competitors out there today.
Also a bit sad PyCoral requires python 3.9! Yikes!
- filterfiber 3y agoEspecially since it only has like 8 MB of memory I think?
- geerlingguy 3y agoSome SoCs even have competent built in NPUs, too, but software support is severely lacking. PyCoral and Coral hardware development seems glacial lately :( They have enjoyed a lot of momentum... I wish they could release a follow-up version and get some longstanding software issues resolved.
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- orangepurple 3y agoOrange Pi 5 has RK3588 with a neural processing unit (NPU). SDKs for it https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rknpu2 https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rknpu2 https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rknn-toolkit2 https://github.com/rockchip-linux/rknn-toolkit2 Quickstart and usage guide: https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/ROC-RK3588S-PC/usage_npu.html https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/ROC-RK3588S-PC/usage_npu.html
- ThatPlayer 3y agoOne of the most popular uses I've seen for Coral, Frigate for object detection for security cameras, recently added support for the RK3588 NPUs too: https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/pull/8382 https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/pull/8382 . I think it requiring a RK3588 makes it a bit annoying to have to upgrade your entire setup just for this though.
- orangepurple 3y agoHow many camera feeds can one Orange Pi 5 realistically monitor?
- ThatPlayer 3y agoAccording to the author of that PR, they're using 10% of 1 NPU core on 3 cameras: https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/pull/8382#issuecomment-1785953476 https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/pull/8382#issueco... The bottleneck instead will probably be the video stream decoding speed, especially as the SoC's hardware decoder isn't being used yet.
- gymbeaux 3y agoI think companies prefer to develop AI stuff and then sell it, rather than sell the hardware.
- muxamilian 3y agoThe Hailo (https://hailo.ai https://hailo.ai) is the biggest competitor at the moment. It is a lot more powerful while not requiring much more power. It does, however, have some problems with Pyhon's GIL and documentation is not always perfect. Other than that it's like the Coral but much better.
- franciscop 3y agoAny alternative that has a simple USB connector?
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- geerlingguy 3y agoIt's also a bit more expensive :) But I am going to test one of those out soon, too! Hopefully it's software stack is maintained a bit more actively than Coral
- LoganDark 3y agoBy "a bit more expensive", you mean $25,000 as opposed to Coral's $25? Because they will not even tell me the price without me filling out a big form.
- muxamilian 3y agoThe software is actively maintained yes. The price is between 100 to 200$.
- bragr 3y ago>Also a bit sad PyCoral requires python 3.9! Yikes! It's a bit on the old side, but hardly yikes territory. Ubuntu 20.04 ships with 3.8 [1] as the system python with support until April 2025, and AWS supports 3.7-3.11 for lambda runtimes [2]. 3.12 has only just been released [1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/python3 https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/python3 [2] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/lambda-runtimes.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/lambda-runtimes...
- mianos 3y agoIt needs a whole bunch binary bindings. It is not really supported since Ubuntu 18 or pretty much any other operating system. If you look at the github repo and bug tracker you will see it's largely abandoned. (I have a Coral USB and you can get it running with an old operating system version).