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> it’s also severely limited Is bard so bad? I asked it to help write text for a patent, and it did. ChatGPT refuses to do so and gives me another moralistic
by seydor 3y ago
> it’s also severely limited
Is bard so bad? I asked it to help write text for a patent, and it did. ChatGPT refuses to do so and gives me another moralistic lecture (this has become so annoying that i stopped using it - i use bing/copilot instead). As a ChatGPT competitor it might even be better, i dont get the outright dismissal.
- TwentyPosts 3y agoBard is honestly fine, I think? It wasn't particularly impressive when they first rolled it out, that probably had a significant impact on peoples' perception.
- Semaphor 3y agoThe GPT API becomes less usable with every new version. For 3.5, March is mostly okay, June requires a heavy hand to only sometimes give a weird moral lecture, and the newest gpt4 version now also starts moralizing all the time. It's one or two updates before it becomes completely useless for anything but corporate usage.
- kulahan 3y agoThe lectures drive me insane. At the very least, Bard seems to let the guardrails bend a bit here and there. ChatGPT is insanely strict on it. If I run into a problem, I can get around it in Bard way more easily.
- chankstein38 3y agoYeah I'm getting pretty tired of ChatGPT lectures as well. I use it less because most of the time, when I think of some use for it, I'm like "Eh it probably would refuse to do that anyway." I don't feel like I'm even doing anything awful with it. It just takes issue with the simplest things. Once I had it running a Text Adventure Game for me and I tried to, in game, specify to someone that changing their name was a requirement of joining my company and ChatGPT lost the plot completely and started lecturing me about how unreasonable that requirement was. Like "Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize we needed the moral police in the fantasy realm."
- wkat4242 3y agoYeah I'm getting so sick of it. And Microsoft CoPilot is burdened by the same political correctness. Clearly they're super afraid of what happened to Microsoft earlier last year: Their chatbot that turned into a Nazi. But they are making their product almost unusable. Luckily jailbreakchat.com still works fine. But doing that all the time is a hassle. I've been trying to run LLaMa 2 uncensored which is great but super slow because I lack the right hardware.
- danans 3y agoQuality won't differ much long term because: - They don't have significantly different training datasets (it's probably 99% the web). - They don't have significantly different algorithms - A big advantage that traditional Google search has the sheer amount of search traffic. They will be able to induce similar traffic (and even repurpose search traffic) to validate their LLMs. OpenAI has the same advantage with ChatGPT thanks being first out of the gate. - Compute power and efficiency: both OpenAI and Google have access to effectively infinite capacity vs their competitors making search-adjacent products. Most significantly, OpenAI/ChatGPT has won the LLM branding race, just like Google won the traditional search branding race.
- bloodyplonker22 3y agoThey do have different training sets. For example, Bard transcribes YouTube videos and uses that as a set.
- danans 3y agoDifferent, but they also share some major base training sets, i.e Wikipedia. If differentiation is really about proprietary training data sets, then the winner will be determined by a data land grab, not by technology differentiation.
- nvy 3y ago>it's probably 99% the web I thought it has been reasonably well-established that ChatGPT was trained significantly on pirated textbooks?
- mcast 3y agoThere was a rumor about ChatGPT using libgen for training data, if true, I find it hard to believe Google's legal team would touch that with a long stick.
- bitshiftfaced 3y ago> They will be able to induce similar traffic (and even repurpose search traffic) to validate their LLMs. Could you elaborate on what you mean?
- johnchristopher 3y agoI was sold the idea bard would be a better search interface. But it insists on making up articles, complete with sources and authors. shrugs ChatGPT is better in that regard.
- danielbln 3y agoIt's bad at coding and it hallucinates much more than ChatGPT.
- tlogan 3y agoChatGPT 4 is light-years ahead of Bard. I tried a couple of question regarding physic and Bard consistently answers incorrectly. And it is not like Wikipedia page for my questions does not exist.
- danjc 3y agoRemember it's important to consider all Gen AI options before deciding which one to use.
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