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There's no reason to use that term.

BiteCode_dev 3y ago
Not insulting people that disagree with you and need the work is a good reason. Even as a frenchmen, I don't think strikes are sacred.
- simlevesque 3y ago
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  - Beached 3y ago
    hardly call it stealing. they decided to no longer work for the previously agreed upon compensation package. the employer found new employees that would do the work they need done. no one stole anything. I agree and encourage unions and collective bargaining, but a strike breaker is hardly a thief, they are just a worker who needs money like the guy striking
    - simlevesque 3y ago
      > they are just a worker who needs money like the guy striking I need a house and you do too. Let me live in your house since we both need it.
      - johngladtj 3y ago
        The job doesn't belong to you
  - anon291 3y ago
    > They steal their livelyhood, it's not a misunderstanding. Should not be legal anywhere. If you're no longer working your job, it's no longer your livelihood. That's your right of course, but you don't own a job anymore than the company owns you.
  - BiteCode_dev 3y ago
    That's the same thing as scab, reframing an attidude that is a sane disagreement and need as a crime. You don't have to agree with any political movement out there. And the strike is a right. A job is not. You already can't be fired for striking which is huge. Wanting other people that have no dog in this fight to accomodate you doesn't seem reasonable. And framing that the way you do is more virtue signaling and pandering than debating.
  - epgui 3y ago
    I think I’m very pro-worker/pro-littleguy/pro-union but I don’t think this makes sense at all.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    Businesses and individuals should not be able to sell their products and services at different prices than competing businesses and individuals.
- klyrs 3y ago
  Medically speaking, scabs are good, right? If your blood didn't clot, and didn't form scabs, you'd bleed out from a small cut.
legitster 3y ago
We're enjoying a very labor-friendly market, but there are many examples in certain periods where unions locked up good, well-paying jobs behind exclusionary, nepotistic, and racist membership practices. So I would be happy to distinguish between a scab who is looking to make a quick buck and a strikebreaker who was never eligible for a union job in the first place. Depends on the context.
- Scarblac 3y ago
  In Europe, typically, a collective bargaining agreement is agreed between the company and the unions - and then it applies to all workers, union member or not. But unions don't have any say in who gets a job. There is no such thing as a "union job".
  - LtWorf 3y ago
    in italy it's illegal to hire someone to replace a striking worker.
mikestew 3y ago
There's an obvious need to "use that term", given that it's in answer to a question from someone who didn't know what the slang term meant. So clear communication is one reason. But otherwise, yeah, if you want to disagree with people by calling them derogatory names, you're right: "strikebreaker" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Not insulting people that disagree with you and need the work is a good reason. Even as a frenchmen, I don't think strikes are sacred.

simlevesque 3y ago
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- Beached 3y ago
  hardly call it stealing. they decided to no longer work for the previously agreed upon compensation package. the employer found new employees that would do the work they need done. no one stole anything. I agree and encourage unions and collective bargaining, but a strike breaker is hardly a thief, they are just a worker who needs money like the guy striking
  - simlevesque 3y ago
    > they are just a worker who needs money like the guy striking I need a house and you do too. Let me live in your house since we both need it.
    - johngladtj 3y ago
      The job doesn't belong to you
- anon291 3y ago
  > They steal their livelyhood, it's not a misunderstanding. Should not be legal anywhere. If you're no longer working your job, it's no longer your livelihood. That's your right of course, but you don't own a job anymore than the company owns you.
- BiteCode_dev 3y ago
  That's the same thing as scab, reframing an attidude that is a sane disagreement and need as a crime. You don't have to agree with any political movement out there. And the strike is a right. A job is not. You already can't be fired for striking which is huge. Wanting other people that have no dog in this fight to accomodate you doesn't seem reasonable. And framing that the way you do is more virtue signaling and pandering than debating.
- epgui 3y ago
  I think I’m very pro-worker/pro-littleguy/pro-union but I don’t think this makes sense at all.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Businesses and individuals should not be able to sell their products and services at different prices than competing businesses and individuals.
klyrs 3y ago
Medically speaking, scabs are good, right? If your blood didn't clot, and didn't form scabs, you'd bleed out from a small cut.

legitster 3y ago

We're enjoying a very labor-friendly market, but there are many examples in certain periods where unions locked up good, well-paying jobs behind exclusionary, nepotistic, and racist membership practices. So I would be happy to distinguish between a scab who is looking to make a quick buck and a strikebreaker who was never eligible for a union job in the first place. Depends on the context.

Scarblac 3y ago
In Europe, typically, a collective bargaining agreement is agreed between the company and the unions - and then it applies to all workers, union member or not. But unions don't have any say in who gets a job. There is no such thing as a "union job".
- LtWorf 3y ago
  in italy it's illegal to hire someone to replace a striking worker.

mikestew 3y ago

There's an obvious need to "use that term", given that it's in answer to a question from someone who didn't know what the slang term meant. So clear communication is one reason. But otherwise, yeah, if you want to disagree with people by calling them derogatory names, you're right: "strikebreaker" just doesn't have the same ring to it.