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I wonder how USA would react to Mexico joining a China military alliance and hosting Chinese troops and weapons? Or maybe Cuba hosting USSR weapons and troops?

zzzeek 3y ago
It likely would never happen. It doesn't really change any of this equation though
- landemva 3y ago
  It did happen. We could learn a lot to apply to future peace by studying history. https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1124680429/cuban-missile-crisis-60th-anniversary https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1124680429/cuban-missile-cris... And USSR wanted USA out of neighboring Turkey. "Ultimately, Khrushchev received an assurance that the U.S. would not invade Cuba and, in a deal that remained secret for a quarter century, the U.S. also promised to remove its missiles from Turkey."
- zzzeek 3y ago
  The cuba part. The Mexico thing, wow I'm going to have to look that one up, I am ignorant on that. I don't see what it has to do with Ukraine wanting to join NATO , I didnt say I want them to join NATO, just it's a fact they've talked about this.
  - landemva 3y ago
    Well, Mexico was a thought experiment. Cuba hosting nukes for USSR happened as retaliation for USA pressing in to USSR via Turkey, and few are taught that history. It is reasonable for people and countries to want a buffer zone of security. The western neocons have pressed into Russia for three decades, thus creating problems. USA neocons have been making sport of pressing into Taiwan to aggravate China. Taiwan is non-negotiable for China, so the west would be safer by not putting military bases on an enemy's front door. Ukraine borders Russia, so of course Russia wants a buffer from aggressors. People in Donbas were Russian and speak Russian, and Ukraine should honor the Minsk agreement and let them vote on their future.
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    - mopsi 3y ago
      > It is reasonable for people and countries to want a buffer zone of security. Not at the expense of others. I fail to see why I should give up my freedoms, my language, culture and material possessions, and become a slave for Russians like my parents were in the USSR. How do you justify it? Are Russians a master race?

zzzeek 3y ago

It likely would never happen. It doesn't really change any of this equation though

landemva 3y ago
It did happen. We could learn a lot to apply to future peace by studying history. https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1124680429/cuban-missile-crisis-60th-anniversary https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1124680429/cuban-missile-cris... And USSR wanted USA out of neighboring Turkey. "Ultimately, Khrushchev received an assurance that the U.S. would not invade Cuba and, in a deal that remained secret for a quarter century, the U.S. also promised to remove its missiles from Turkey."
zzzeek 3y ago
The cuba part. The Mexico thing, wow I'm going to have to look that one up, I am ignorant on that. I don't see what it has to do with Ukraine wanting to join NATO , I didnt say I want them to join NATO, just it's a fact they've talked about this.
- landemva 3y ago
  Well, Mexico was a thought experiment. Cuba hosting nukes for USSR happened as retaliation for USA pressing in to USSR via Turkey, and few are taught that history. It is reasonable for people and countries to want a buffer zone of security. The western neocons have pressed into Russia for three decades, thus creating problems. USA neocons have been making sport of pressing into Taiwan to aggravate China. Taiwan is non-negotiable for China, so the west would be safer by not putting military bases on an enemy's front door. Ukraine borders Russia, so of course Russia wants a buffer from aggressors. People in Donbas were Russian and speak Russian, and Ukraine should honor the Minsk agreement and let them vote on their future.
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  - mopsi 3y ago
    > It is reasonable for people and countries to want a buffer zone of security. Not at the expense of others. I fail to see why I should give up my freedoms, my language, culture and material possessions, and become a slave for Russians like my parents were in the USSR. How do you justify it? Are Russians a master race?