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Good for them. I love to see workers uniting. In this increasingly globalized world, each country is still different. You can't expect swedish workers to accep

Good for them. I love to see workers uniting. In this increasingly globalized world, each country is still different. You can't expect swedish workers to accept that you treat them like american workers just because your company is big. I really like this part: > Even postal workers will stop delivering mail to Tesla

bastardoperator 3y ago
It's crazy what average folks can do when they collectively own the means of production.
- Scarblac 3y ago
  They don't, of course. But solidarity goes a long way.
- apwell23 3y ago
  . Edit: deleting my comment. didn't add much value to the conversation.
  - arcticbull 3y ago
    > average folks get fired immediately for not doing their job. A job that they agreed to do. The point of a union is to be able to push back on your employer, so that fighting for better conditions isn't a special privilege.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Special kind of privilege to have a union?
  - xboxnolifes 3y ago
    > average folks get fired immediately for not doing their job. A job that they agreed to do. The entire point of a union is that you have enough collective agreement so that the company can't just fire everyone who pushes back. They can fire one person, or even many, but what if half of the workers are pushing back? > also, mail workers don't "own" mail delivery. They may not own it, but they do control it. Good luck getting your mail if every mail worker collectively decided to stop working.
- pxc 3y ago
  Workers don't collectively own the means of production in Sweden, but they are collectively pwning at the moment
natch 3y ago
Maybe the phone company will block Tesla fax machines too. /s
- soegaard 3y ago
  Fax ... German? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/faxing-is-old-tech-so-why-is-it-also-growing-in-popularity/2019/03/08/d01c638a-2f0b-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/faxin...
VoodooJuJu 3y ago
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- banannaise 3y ago
  No, it's good for workers to unite, even if it's for stupid reasons. The argument is against the reasons, not the uniting.

bastardoperator 3y ago

It's crazy what average folks can do when they collectively own the means of production.

Scarblac 3y ago
They don't, of course. But solidarity goes a long way.
apwell23 3y ago
. Edit: deleting my comment. didn't add much value to the conversation.
- arcticbull 3y ago
  > average folks get fired immediately for not doing their job. A job that they agreed to do. The point of a union is to be able to push back on your employer, so that fighting for better conditions isn't a special privilege.
- ponector 3y ago
  Special kind of privilege to have a union?
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  > average folks get fired immediately for not doing their job. A job that they agreed to do. The entire point of a union is that you have enough collective agreement so that the company can't just fire everyone who pushes back. They can fire one person, or even many, but what if half of the workers are pushing back? > also, mail workers don't "own" mail delivery. They may not own it, but they do control it. Good luck getting your mail if every mail worker collectively decided to stop working.
pxc 3y ago
Workers don't collectively own the means of production in Sweden, but they are collectively pwning at the moment

natch 3y ago

Maybe the phone company will block Tesla fax machines too. /s

soegaard 3y ago
Fax ... German? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/faxing-is-old-tech-so-why-is-it-also-growing-in-popularity/2019/03/08/d01c638a-2f0b-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/faxin...

VoodooJuJu 3y ago

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banannaise 3y ago
No, it's good for workers to unite, even if it's for stupid reasons. The argument is against the reasons, not the uniting.