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It's absolutely pandering. These same lads denounce democrats and progressives for being "socialist" or "communist" for not backing unhinged neo-liberal polici

by s_dev 3y ago

It's absolutely pandering. These same lads denounce democrats and progressives for being "socialist" or "communist" for not backing unhinged neo-liberal policies. Xi is literally an authoritarian communist quasi dictator and gets a standing ovation.

kouru225 3y ago
Private ownership of capital is legal in China. It’s not communist at all.
- me_me_me 3y ago
  Oh here we go again, but CCCP was a communist state, eh? This is akin to calling everything and everyone socialist.
  - philipov 3y ago
    The Soviet Union was a socialist state: that was the word they used to describe themselves. It was ruled by the Communist Party, which has nothing to do with the economic or political system the country followed. The best word to describe China's economic system is Mercantilism.
    - kube-system 3y ago
      I believe, academically, the phrase used to describe China's economy is "socialist market economy". However, that doesn't preclude calling Xi a "communist", as the other commenter did above. A person is not the economy, and I think there is plenty of evidence to conclude that Xi is worth of the label.
- boeingUH60 3y ago
  It’s a middle road between communism and capitalism. Sure, you can own capital, but annoy the regime, and you’ll soon be relieved of your assets by the ultimate owner: the state.
  - kouru225 3y ago
    Sounds like a capitalist dictatorship to me… People need to stop defining stuff by whether or not it works the way you want it to work. We still call a capitalist system “capitalist” if it’s broken for the same reason we still call a box a box if the bottom has given out and it can’t hold anything.
- throwaway4aday 3y ago
  Private ownership of capital is allowed at the discretion of the communist party in China.
  - corethree 3y ago
    This is similar to how weed was "illegal" for decades in the US. Note the quotation marks. "illegal" is different from illegal. Saying china is "communist" is different then saying china is communist.
  - kouru225 3y ago
    Yes it’s an authoritarian capitalist society.
- kube-system 3y ago
  State ownership of capital is legal in the US. Basically all economies are at least a little bit mixed. We label them based on whichever principles are predominant.
  - kouru225 3y ago
    Capitalism doesn’t exclude the government from owning capital. Communism does exclude the private ownership of capital.
    - kube-system 3y ago
      Yes, but if we want to be that pedantic, we should also specify that Xi is a person and not an economy. The person you replied to above did not say that China has a communist economy, they called Xi a communist. If someone is heavily influenced by Marxist-Leninist ideology, calls themself a communist, and leads a communist political party, it is reasonable to call them a communist.

by s_dev 3y ago

kouru225 3y ago

Private ownership of capital is legal in China. It’s not communist at all.

me_me_me 3y ago
Oh here we go again, but CCCP was a communist state, eh? This is akin to calling everything and everyone socialist.
- philipov 3y ago
  The Soviet Union was a socialist state: that was the word they used to describe themselves. It was ruled by the Communist Party, which has nothing to do with the economic or political system the country followed. The best word to describe China's economic system is Mercantilism.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    I believe, academically, the phrase used to describe China's economy is "socialist market economy". However, that doesn't preclude calling Xi a "communist", as the other commenter did above. A person is not the economy, and I think there is plenty of evidence to conclude that Xi is worth of the label.
boeingUH60 3y ago
It’s a middle road between communism and capitalism. Sure, you can own capital, but annoy the regime, and you’ll soon be relieved of your assets by the ultimate owner: the state.
- kouru225 3y ago
  Sounds like a capitalist dictatorship to me… People need to stop defining stuff by whether or not it works the way you want it to work. We still call a capitalist system “capitalist” if it’s broken for the same reason we still call a box a box if the bottom has given out and it can’t hold anything.
throwaway4aday 3y ago
Private ownership of capital is allowed at the discretion of the communist party in China.
- corethree 3y ago
  This is similar to how weed was "illegal" for decades in the US. Note the quotation marks. "illegal" is different from illegal. Saying china is "communist" is different then saying china is communist.
- kouru225 3y ago
  Yes it’s an authoritarian capitalist society.
kube-system 3y ago
State ownership of capital is legal in the US. Basically all economies are at least a little bit mixed. We label them based on whichever principles are predominant.
- kouru225 3y ago
  Capitalism doesn’t exclude the government from owning capital. Communism does exclude the private ownership of capital.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    Yes, but if we want to be that pedantic, we should also specify that Xi is a person and not an economy. The person you replied to above did not say that China has a communist economy, they called Xi a communist. If someone is heavily influenced by Marxist-Leninist ideology, calls themself a communist, and leads a communist political party, it is reasonable to call them a communist.