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I feel like the novelty will wear off sooner or later. I certainly got bored of doing "X but as Y" pretty fast.

by ljm 3y ago

gosub100 3y ago
I'm excited to see the first brand new content from an existing series. I really love the 80's cartoon Inspector Gadget. There are about 100 episodes and they are all pretty repetitive (so hopefully easy to train AI with). I would be enthralled if someone could create new episodes with: - AI generated storyline - Deepfake the original actors voices - Deepfake the animation, which should(?) be easier (more realistic) than the video deepfakes. This could be so cool, "hey AI, make an Inspector Gadget espisode where the dog gets lost in the forest and Uncle Gadget eats magic mushrooms he finds while trying to find him"
- ljm 3y ago
  I'd actually find that quite disappointing. If you can generate practically infinite variations of a show using AI, it completely eliminates scarcity and makes the result meaningless. It's not even unique to AI really. The whole genre of games that depend on procedural generation are similar. Who cares if there are a thousand planets in Starfield if they're all just the output of RNG? There's no actual handicraft involved to set one environment apart from another. There's more music on Spotify than anyone could listen to in a lifetime; it just makes it harder to find new stuff that is actually good or else you stick to what you know.
  - gosub100 3y ago
    > There's no actual handicraft involved to set one environment apart from another one of the reasons I don't like modern animation is the lack of effort in the actual animating. South Park looks like it was drawn by 5-year-olds who traced the outline of a salt shaker for the characters. Inb4 "it's supposed to be that way, it's all computer assisted and has been for 20 years", yes I know that. The point is there's no art involved in it. 80's and 90's stuff was hand drawn (AFAIK) and often outsourced to animators in Japan, and yeah it's primitive, but its literally handicraft. The only scarcity of shows like southpark is people with squeaky annoying voices. Even the writing is so repetitive and predictable. It was novel and funny in the 90's-early 2000's, but "kid saying adult thing in exuberant voice" is tired and old. Simpsons were doing it in 1989 ffs.
    - latexr 3y ago
      > one of the reasons I don't like modern animation is the lack of effort in the actual animating. The new Ninja Turtles and Spider-Man movies certainly contradict that, as do plenty of animations from Japan such as anything by Satoshi Kon. Yes, there’s a lot more garbage today but that because there’s a lot more of everything. The good stuff is going strong and there’s innovation still happening. South Park is a bad example because it’s atypical in many ways. They do the whole episode in under a week, including the writing and animation, and the cast is basically the creators. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Mutant_Mayhem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Across_the_Spider-Verse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Across_the_Spider-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_Days_to_Air https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_Days_to_Air

I feel like the novelty will wear off sooner or later. I certainly got bored of doing "X but as Y" pretty fast.

by ljm 3y ago

I feel like the novelty will wear off sooner or later. I certainly got bored of doing "X but as Y" pretty fast.

I'm excited to see the first brand new content from an existing series. I really love the 80's cartoon Inspector Gadget. There are about 100 episodes and they are all pretty repetitive (so hopefully easy to train AI with). I would be enthralled if someone could create new episodes with: - AI generated storyline - Deepfake the original actors voices - Deepfake the animation, which should(?) be easier (more realistic) than the video deepfakes. This could be so cool, "hey AI, make an Inspector Gadget espisode where the dog gets lost in the forest and Uncle Gadget eats magic mushrooms he finds while trying to find him"

ljm 3y ago
I'd actually find that quite disappointing. If you can generate practically infinite variations of a show using AI, it completely eliminates scarcity and makes the result meaningless. It's not even unique to AI really. The whole genre of games that depend on procedural generation are similar. Who cares if there are a thousand planets in Starfield if they're all just the output of RNG? There's no actual handicraft involved to set one environment apart from another. There's more music on Spotify than anyone could listen to in a lifetime; it just makes it harder to find new stuff that is actually good or else you stick to what you know.
- gosub100 3y ago
  > There's no actual handicraft involved to set one environment apart from another one of the reasons I don't like modern animation is the lack of effort in the actual animating. South Park looks like it was drawn by 5-year-olds who traced the outline of a salt shaker for the characters. Inb4 "it's supposed to be that way, it's all computer assisted and has been for 20 years", yes I know that. The point is there's no art involved in it. 80's and 90's stuff was hand drawn (AFAIK) and often outsourced to animators in Japan, and yeah it's primitive, but its literally handicraft. The only scarcity of shows like southpark is people with squeaky annoying voices. Even the writing is so repetitive and predictable. It was novel and funny in the 90's-early 2000's, but "kid saying adult thing in exuberant voice" is tired and old. Simpsons were doing it in 1989 ffs.
  - latexr 3y ago
    > one of the reasons I don't like modern animation is the lack of effort in the actual animating. The new Ninja Turtles and Spider-Man movies certainly contradict that, as do plenty of animations from Japan such as anything by Satoshi Kon. Yes, there’s a lot more garbage today but that because there’s a lot more of everything. The good stuff is going strong and there’s innovation still happening. South Park is a bad example because it’s atypical in many ways. They do the whole episode in under a week, including the writing and animation, and the cast is basically the creators. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Mutant_Mayhem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Across_the_Spider-Verse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Across_the_Spider-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_Days_to_Air https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_Days_to_Air