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I used "net average tax rate" from the OECD as an apples to apples comparison. Your reply is "what about the 1%ers who live in two of the most expensive cities

I used "net average tax rate" from the OECD as an apples to apples comparison. Your reply is "what about the 1%ers who live in two of the most expensive cities in the world? What about THEM?" What about the 99.9% of Americans who don't make six figures in one of those two cities? I've never quite understood why people think America is a few million people living in 2 cities. You know there's 320,000,000 more us of right?

tempsy 3y ago
There’s 50M-60M people between California and NYC. At this point making “mid six figures” hardly makes you rich. You don’t have to be the top 1% to see a tax rate higher than the one you stated. Point is arguing that Americans are low taxed when the highest paying jobs are concentrated in high tax states and cost of living is much higher ignores reality for many Americans who pay as much or more than Europeans.
criley2 3y ago
Oh, my bad, you actually included all of California in your quote. I corrected it to SF because most people understand that California is absolutely massive. The median household income in California is $80k and of the 40 million in California, very few work in tech. California actually has extremely progressive tax laws and extremely low property taxes, so while you're right that the actually wealthy folks do pay a European-level of taxation, the working class actually pays a dramatically tax rate than their counterparts in Europe. Anyone with any knowledge of California knows all of this, so when you made such odd points that seemed to challenge it, I tried to help you by assuming you meant SF. Point is: the vast majority of Americans pay vastly less taxes than Europeans and no weird focuses on outliers is going to change reality. Funny side note: I still am the only person who posted OECD apples to apples data, which you have rejected un-critically with no sourcing and nothing but hand waves about your feelings. Hmmm.

tempsy 3y ago

There’s 50M-60M people between California and NYC. At this point making “mid six figures” hardly makes you rich. You don’t have to be the top 1% to see a tax rate higher than the one you stated. Point is arguing that Americans are low taxed when the highest paying jobs are concentrated in high tax states and cost of living is much higher ignores reality for many Americans who pay as much or more than Europeans.

criley2 3y ago

Oh, my bad, you actually included all of California in your quote. I corrected it to SF because most people understand that California is absolutely massive. The median household income in California is $80k and of the 40 million in California, very few work in tech. California actually has extremely progressive tax laws and extremely low property taxes, so while you're right that the actually wealthy folks do pay a European-level of taxation, the working class actually pays a dramatically tax rate than their counterparts in Europe. Anyone with any knowledge of California knows all of this, so when you made such odd points that seemed to challenge it, I tried to help you by assuming you meant SF. Point is: the vast majority of Americans pay vastly less taxes than Europeans and no weird focuses on outliers is going to change reality. Funny side note: I still am the only person who posted OECD apples to apples data, which you have rejected un-critically with no sourcing and nothing but hand waves about your feelings. Hmmm.