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It is an interesting thing though. Why did the design lead too people leaving the cups behind? I get the hostile part as they do not want to clean up other pe
by sumtechguy 3y ago
It is an interesting thing though. Why did the design lead too people leaving the cups behind? I get the hostile part as they do not want to clean up other peoples trash. It is something I think about a lot on the way to work. I see gum on the ground. Not like one or two here and there but hundreds of little blobs on the sidewalk. What is causing people in these particular spots to leave their gum behind and then putting the chore of cleaning it up on someone else. I even see it when there is a trash can nearby many times. What is causing the issue? So yeah so sometimes there is no 'clear fix' but making it seriously inconvenient to do something is an option for those who have to pay to clean it up. So we all suffer because of that.
- steamer25 3y agoYep. The primary fault lies with the too-many people who abused the non-hostile system. "This is why we can't have nice things"--because trust is too costly in the societies where hostile architecture is prevalent.
- sumtechguy 3y agoI get that and agree. But why is the 'easy path' to leave the garbage even in conditions where there is a garbage can right there? Shame and motivation probably seem like the wrong tools here. It seems like something is lending it to us just not doing it the right way. It is like something in the architecture lends itself to people just ignoring the obvious way. My wife was telling me about a 'gum wall' at an amusement park. I immediately saw that as a way for the park to basically hack people to not throw their gum on the sidewalk. Basically a weird reward for keeping your gum and putting it on that wall. The architecture and mythos encouraged people to not do it.