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This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody. But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content. Look forward to: David Attenboroug

This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody. But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content. Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. I don’t know what we can do. Ain’t no easy answers. But do we want courts and $Lawyers deciding what is respectful?

Lord-Jobo 3y ago
Courts and lawyers will do a bad job, and also the best job out of every option available. As it has been for 100 years.
- argiopetech 3y ago
  I'm sure the Brits would claim since 1066.
- spacebanana7 3y ago
  Voice cloning seems much harder to regulate with copyright than most other issues because 1) there's a continuous spectrum of vocal similarity 2) the tools of voice cloning are available to hundreds of millions of people 3) there may be several real individuals who could claim a voice similar to David Attenborough was also similar to theirs. Using trademarks seems like a more realistic means of regulation. Allowing David Attenborough to sue anyone that falsely and publicly credits him as a narrator seems feasible within existing law, and extending this to cover anti-avoidance tactics like "narrated in the style of David Attenborough" wouldn't be that much of an overreach.
  - themaninthedark 3y ago
    Didn't courts already rule that AI art is not infringing on the original works that it was trained on. I doubt that people are gonna be satisfied with the same voices, instead you will end up with David Attenborough mixed with Morgan Freeman and Patrick Steward. I can't wait to hear the new compelling ads using this technology and I anticipate the scandal when people realize that one of the very charismatic voices belongs to an Austrian who was born in 1933 because I guarantee that his voice will end up in the training data. Here is an idea for someone who like playing with this stuff, personalized entertainment. Pop songs sung by a voice that is a mix of Shakira, Brittany Spears and Lady Gaga, written by Chat GPT-4.
webmaven 3y ago
"> Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn.* Note that this basic idea was previously realized as the 1999 movie "The Mating Habits of the Earthbound Human" starring Carmen Electra and narrated by David Hyde Pierce.
sonicanatidae 3y ago
To be fair, I would pay folding money to hear Attenborough narrate pr0n.
bonton89 3y ago
I believe Tom Hanks already had some one deep fake him into endorsing some medicare scam product. I'd be more worried about that than the unsavory narration which most people probably would assume was fake.
- anonymous_sorry 3y ago
  Teaching people to distrust celebrity endorsements wouldn't be the worst outcome.
  - bravura 3y ago
    There are millions of years of evolution conditioning humans to trust things that are familiar. It's naive to think we'll adapt effectively and quickly to extreme manipulation.
    - throwaway4aday 3y ago
      Adapting effectively and quickly is kind of our thing, also backed by millions of years of evolution.
      - Clamchop 3y ago
        You're being a little flip but adapting to one thing usually comes with compromising something else. Hanks is just an example of trusting a leader or authority. Whether you think he's a good fit for that is immaterial, everyone will be compromised. Asking for critical thinking is all well and good but just the _knowledge_ that it's easy to generate gobs of high-fidelity forgeries, all corroborating each other as falsified evidence, could have chilling consequences by eroding faith in institutions and promoting misinformation and conspiracy theorizing. You can adapt and still end up worse off than you were before there was anything to adapt to.
        anonymous_sorry 3y ago
        Perhaps we need to build out a way for clients to be able to trust content. Not signed with Hanks' public key, or the key of a reputable news source? The client, my tv, or whatever, should make that obvious somehow. The industry certainly spends plenty of effort developing ways for content producers to trust clients. But I'm probably just another tech bro suggesting a technological solution to a social problem.
petepete 3y ago
Or Attenborough attributing the wonders of the planet to a god.
- gosub100 3y ago
  A great SaaS idea! It subtly injects "glory to the creator" type messages in existing science documentaries, for consumption by faith-based institutions.
  - biofox 3y ago
    Reminds me of "Cosmos for Rednecks": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1Q8PQLAhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1Q8PQLAhQ
  - Verdex 3y ago
    The generalized kernel of your comment here leaves me deeply unsettled. Imagine the following: * AI discovers community's non-trivial shibboleths * AI detects pauses in video stream where 1) the speaker is off camera and 2) there's space for a non-trivial shibboleth to be inserted * Convert nearly all media from what it is into a lowkey propaganda piece where arbitrary community believes that their favorite celebrities are actually closet members of their community. Example: David Attenborough narrates a scene of ants using pheromones to encourage the colony that they need to dig out more tunnels. Then in a brief pause adds: "They must construct additional pylons." Most people just glaze over the line, meanwhile starcraft players are having a different reaction.
  - optimalsolver 3y ago
    God no.
hn8305823 3y ago
> Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. Here you go: https://youtu.be/kwAEVII8FRM?si=oF0Vu5Zgk7fUgvDz&t=491 https://youtu.be/kwAEVII8FRM?si=oF0Vu5Zgk7fUgvDz&t=491 (NSFW!)
wincy 3y ago
A full year ago I heard an extremely racist AI "David Attenborough" narration where he described an encounter between an Asian man and a Black man on a city street as if he were describing aggressive animals. It 100% sounded like a documentary though, a normal person would have no idea Attenborough wasn't actually narrating the world's most racist nature film. Now that is disrespectful, and already exists. If I recall, soon after 4chan discovered this "hilarious trick", the API access for the AI narration tool was shut off. But those moats aren't going to last forever.

Lord-Jobo 3y ago

Courts and lawyers will do a bad job, and also the best job out of every option available. As it has been for 100 years.

argiopetech 3y ago
I'm sure the Brits would claim since 1066.
spacebanana7 3y ago
Voice cloning seems much harder to regulate with copyright than most other issues because 1) there's a continuous spectrum of vocal similarity 2) the tools of voice cloning are available to hundreds of millions of people 3) there may be several real individuals who could claim a voice similar to David Attenborough was also similar to theirs. Using trademarks seems like a more realistic means of regulation. Allowing David Attenborough to sue anyone that falsely and publicly credits him as a narrator seems feasible within existing law, and extending this to cover anti-avoidance tactics like "narrated in the style of David Attenborough" wouldn't be that much of an overreach.
- themaninthedark 3y ago
  Didn't courts already rule that AI art is not infringing on the original works that it was trained on. I doubt that people are gonna be satisfied with the same voices, instead you will end up with David Attenborough mixed with Morgan Freeman and Patrick Steward. I can't wait to hear the new compelling ads using this technology and I anticipate the scandal when people realize that one of the very charismatic voices belongs to an Austrian who was born in 1933 because I guarantee that his voice will end up in the training data. Here is an idea for someone who like playing with this stuff, personalized entertainment. Pop songs sung by a voice that is a mix of Shakira, Brittany Spears and Lady Gaga, written by Chat GPT-4.

webmaven 3y ago

"> Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn.* Note that this basic idea was previously realized as the 1999 movie "The Mating Habits of the Earthbound Human" starring Carmen Electra and narrated by David Hyde Pierce.

sonicanatidae 3y ago

To be fair, I would pay folding money to hear Attenborough narrate pr0n.

bonton89 3y ago

I believe Tom Hanks already had some one deep fake him into endorsing some medicare scam product. I'd be more worried about that than the unsavory narration which most people probably would assume was fake.

anonymous_sorry 3y ago
Teaching people to distrust celebrity endorsements wouldn't be the worst outcome.
- bravura 3y ago
  There are millions of years of evolution conditioning humans to trust things that are familiar. It's naive to think we'll adapt effectively and quickly to extreme manipulation.
  - throwaway4aday 3y ago
    Adapting effectively and quickly is kind of our thing, also backed by millions of years of evolution.
    - Clamchop 3y ago
      You're being a little flip but adapting to one thing usually comes with compromising something else. Hanks is just an example of trusting a leader or authority. Whether you think he's a good fit for that is immaterial, everyone will be compromised. Asking for critical thinking is all well and good but just the _knowledge_ that it's easy to generate gobs of high-fidelity forgeries, all corroborating each other as falsified evidence, could have chilling consequences by eroding faith in institutions and promoting misinformation and conspiracy theorizing. You can adapt and still end up worse off than you were before there was anything to adapt to.
      - anonymous_sorry 3y ago
        Perhaps we need to build out a way for clients to be able to trust content. Not signed with Hanks' public key, or the key of a reputable news source? The client, my tv, or whatever, should make that obvious somehow. The industry certainly spends plenty of effort developing ways for content producers to trust clients. But I'm probably just another tech bro suggesting a technological solution to a social problem.

petepete 3y ago

Or Attenborough attributing the wonders of the planet to a god.

gosub100 3y ago
A great SaaS idea! It subtly injects "glory to the creator" type messages in existing science documentaries, for consumption by faith-based institutions.
- biofox 3y ago
  Reminds me of "Cosmos for Rednecks": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1Q8PQLAhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1Q8PQLAhQ
- Verdex 3y ago
  The generalized kernel of your comment here leaves me deeply unsettled. Imagine the following: * AI discovers community's non-trivial shibboleths * AI detects pauses in video stream where 1) the speaker is off camera and 2) there's space for a non-trivial shibboleth to be inserted * Convert nearly all media from what it is into a lowkey propaganda piece where arbitrary community believes that their favorite celebrities are actually closet members of their community. Example: David Attenborough narrates a scene of ants using pheromones to encourage the colony that they need to dig out more tunnels. Then in a brief pause adds: "They must construct additional pylons." Most people just glaze over the line, meanwhile starcraft players are having a different reaction.
- optimalsolver 3y ago
  God no.

hn8305823 3y ago

> Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. Here you go: https://youtu.be/kwAEVII8FRM?si=oF0Vu5Zgk7fUgvDz&t=491 https://youtu.be/kwAEVII8FRM?si=oF0Vu5Zgk7fUgvDz&t=491 (NSFW!)

wincy 3y ago

A full year ago I heard an extremely racist AI "David Attenborough" narration where he described an encounter between an Asian man and a Black man on a city street as if he were describing aggressive animals. It 100% sounded like a documentary though, a normal person would have no idea Attenborough wasn't actually narrating the world's most racist nature film. Now that is disrespectful, and already exists. If I recall, soon after 4chan discovered this "hilarious trick", the API access for the AI narration tool was shut off. But those moats aren't going to last forever.