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This was my take, FWIW. https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/16/canonical_microcloud/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/16/canonical_microcloud/

linuxftw 3y ago
This demo is very hard to follow indeed. They are just jumping around, demoing features, but not talking about how it all fits together.
- lproven 3y ago
  I agree, but as I said in the article, the first stage of the demo failed, and after some frantic attempts to tear down and rebuild the cluster, they gave up, moved on to later stage of the demo, and then came back to it. Which is why it's incoherent and doesn't fit together.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    This is why you always prepare videos
cloudbonsai 3y ago
Mmm. So is MicroCloud essentially a glue between LXD + Ceph? It's not really clear what the problem MicroCloud is trying to solve, though. Considering that LXD already supports multi-node clustering, why does anyone want another cluster manager on top of LXD?
- tyingq 3y ago
  Paraphrased, they are saying LXD is more suited to running VMs or containers and not specifically microservices. It's missing sophisticated cross-container networking, centralized storage management, etc. So they are pitching a "simpler than K8S, more complicated than LXD" layer on top of LXD for that purpose. I suppose it also would compete with Proxmox, which is a somewhat different space than K8S. But other things it adds, like the web ui, RBAC, etc...put it in that space also.
  - SoftTalker 3y ago
    I got Proxmox running in an on-prem cluster fairly easily. I was never able to figure out k8s. If MicroCloud is comparably easy to set up and manage as Proxmox, I'll definitely check it out.
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0xbadcafebee 3y ago
So basically it's VMware but with more nodes required
- Icathian 3y ago
  Whether that's true or not, given the current circumstances of VMware I think "basically VMware but without Hock Tan swallowing it whole" is a compelling enough pitch to merit serious interest.
- lproven 3y ago
  It's free. The free tier of VMware doesn't offer any redundancy at all.

linuxftw 3y ago

This demo is very hard to follow indeed. They are just jumping around, demoing features, but not talking about how it all fits together.

lproven 3y ago
I agree, but as I said in the article, the first stage of the demo failed, and after some frantic attempts to tear down and rebuild the cluster, they gave up, moved on to later stage of the demo, and then came back to it. Which is why it's incoherent and doesn't fit together.
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  This is why you always prepare videos

cloudbonsai 3y ago

Mmm. So is MicroCloud essentially a glue between LXD + Ceph? It's not really clear what the problem MicroCloud is trying to solve, though. Considering that LXD already supports multi-node clustering, why does anyone want another cluster manager on top of LXD?

tyingq 3y ago
Paraphrased, they are saying LXD is more suited to running VMs or containers and not specifically microservices. It's missing sophisticated cross-container networking, centralized storage management, etc. So they are pitching a "simpler than K8S, more complicated than LXD" layer on top of LXD for that purpose. I suppose it also would compete with Proxmox, which is a somewhat different space than K8S. But other things it adds, like the web ui, RBAC, etc...put it in that space also.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  I got Proxmox running in an on-prem cluster fairly easily. I was never able to figure out k8s. If MicroCloud is comparably easy to set up and manage as Proxmox, I'll definitely check it out.
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0xbadcafebee 3y ago

So basically it's VMware but with more nodes required

Icathian 3y ago
Whether that's true or not, given the current circumstances of VMware I think "basically VMware but without Hock Tan swallowing it whole" is a compelling enough pitch to merit serious interest.
lproven 3y ago
It's free. The free tier of VMware doesn't offer any redundancy at all.