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Those are the share of nuclear and renewables in total electricity production, therefore this is quite real. In which way 'electricity production' isn't real,

Those are the share of nuclear and renewables in total electricity production, therefore this is quite real. In which way 'electricity production' isn't real, or not helping to reduce greenhouse-gas effect emissions?

realusername 3y ago
In the real world, the grid got almost shut down by the Russian war and the salvation came from even dirtier gas from the US
- hef19898 3y ago
  What are you even talking about? The electricity grid? The gas grid? If so, whoms? Germany's? The French? The only grid that got shot up was the Ukrainian one. And even then gas still flowed through to Eastern Europe...
  - realusername 3y ago
    The electricity grid would have been dead without dirty gas import from the US
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Again, in which country? Because Germany for sure only mostly uses gas for heating and industrial purposes, not electricity generation (hard to disguish I know, but primary and secondary energy are well explained on wiki).
      - realusername 3y ago
        It's both, it's true that the german industry is the least transitioned but the grid is also using gas as power generation
- natmaka 3y ago
  No, in Europe one of the main importers of this dirtier US gas is... nuclear-hero France! Source: https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/open-source/open-source-chronique-du-samedi-13-mai-2023-8800143 https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/open-sourc...
  - realusername 3y ago
    Yes I know, those gas plants were built by Total and Engie as a part of their renewable strategy. The irony is insane here. Before 2010 and the privatisation of the grid, France only had a single working gas plant on the whole grid and not even connected to the pipelines, it was a plant reusing factory gas. Those gas plants are brand new and there to support the new wind and solar installs. Check the construction dates here, it's really obvious: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_centrales_thermiques_%C3%A0_flamme_en_France https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_centrales_thermiqu...

realusername 3y ago

In the real world, the grid got almost shut down by the Russian war and the salvation came from even dirtier gas from the US

hef19898 3y ago
What are you even talking about? The electricity grid? The gas grid? If so, whoms? Germany's? The French? The only grid that got shot up was the Ukrainian one. And even then gas still flowed through to Eastern Europe...
- realusername 3y ago
  The electricity grid would have been dead without dirty gas import from the US
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Again, in which country? Because Germany for sure only mostly uses gas for heating and industrial purposes, not electricity generation (hard to disguish I know, but primary and secondary energy are well explained on wiki).
    - realusername 3y ago
      It's both, it's true that the german industry is the least transitioned but the grid is also using gas as power generation
natmaka 3y ago
No, in Europe one of the main importers of this dirtier US gas is... nuclear-hero France! Source: https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/open-source/open-source-chronique-du-samedi-13-mai-2023-8800143 https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/open-sourc...
- realusername 3y ago
  Yes I know, those gas plants were built by Total and Engie as a part of their renewable strategy. The irony is insane here. Before 2010 and the privatisation of the grid, France only had a single working gas plant on the whole grid and not even connected to the pipelines, it was a plant reusing factory gas. Those gas plants are brand new and there to support the new wind and solar installs. Check the construction dates here, it's really obvious: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_centrales_thermiques_%C3%A0_flamme_en_France https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_centrales_thermiqu...