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Your car industry will be headed there next it seems.
by CalRobert 3y ago
Your car industry will be headed there next it seems.
- mschuster91 3y agoThat's not due to incompetent politicians for once. The crisis of the German car industry is entirely of its own doing - they completely ignored electric power for years, and instead focused on lobbying to get rid of emission limits, which obviously left them stranded in a ditch after Dieselgate. On top of that, everyone but Volkswagen was/is focused on high-margin SUVs and luxury vehicles, which aren't really a thing outside of corporate "luxury" for upper level management and new-rich in China, and Volkswagen completely dropped the ball in software quality.
- spaniard89277 3y agoIt's a disgrace that we're not able to buy cheap and light cars in the EU anymore. I just want a ~2010 Fiat Panda :(
- V__ 3y agoRenaults Zoe also seems great, I see quite a lot of them on German streets.
- archi42 3y agoThe Zoe is EOL and IIRC replaced by the Clio E-Tech. Also, Renault is french? (Not to talk badly about the specific car or the move to BEV in general - I applaud that and am at the same time disappointed how our [German] manufacturers ignored the shift)
- CalRobert 3y agoThe Zoe has pretty horrendous crash ratings, sadly.
- hkt 3y agoThere are cute little things like the Citroen Ami: https://www.citroen.co.uk/ami https://www.citroen.co.uk/ami They're nearly compelling enough for me to learn to drive. Nearly..!
- la_oveja 3y agojust fyi, a citroen ami (2020+) is not a car is a quadricycle; it does not need a driving license, is like a electric bike. id not want to use it to stay in traffic tho, crashing that does not seem safe
- CalRobert 3y agoEven in Europe cars are becoming bloated and shoving everyone else off the streets. The Economist had a piece about the death of small cars in Europe a few months ago. https://archive.ph/KxzUK https://archive.ph/KxzUK There's really no escape, it seems.
- cpursley 3y agoThat’s only part of it (China is eating and will continue Germany’s EV’s lunch), the other part is energy prices. Like it or not, cheap natural gas from a certain country was the backbone of a competitive German industrial economy. Can’t make an Bosch appliance or VW with solar power that can compete with Korea’s LG or Chinese brands. Energy is EVERYTHING.
- hef19898 3y agoThenonly EV lunch Chinese OEMs aren't eating is Hyundais.
- cpursley 3y agoHopefully not, really looking to the competition!
- RandomLensman 3y agoGermany could have cheap own energy, but usually any new infrastructure or whatever attracts huge opposition.