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Will I need to move to one of these countries to benefit from this, or can I just visit? That is, how long will I have to tunnel my traffic across the pond to

Will I need to move to one of these countries to benefit from this, or can I just visit? That is, how long will I have to tunnel my traffic across the pond to keep this cruft uninstalled?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Why not militate to your politicians and law makers to have your country also adopt consumer friendly legislation? Genuine question. I know using VPNs is a lot easier, but I feel like that's not the real long-term solution.
- raincole 3y ago
  Most countries are not as powerful as EU. EU can do this and that customer-friendly regulation because they are a huge market that even MS and Apple cannot afford to lose.
  - mulletbum 3y ago
    Most people on this site are from the USA, so I would bet their legislators could do something, but choose not to.
  - vitorgrs 3y ago
    If you are from a very small country, maybe... But there's a lot of mid-sized or other big countries who just have the power and don't do any of these regulations. Brazil basically cloned GDPR and it worked (LGPD). For example, look at this Samsung tool: https://imgur.com/a/ycgkSCI https://imgur.com/a/ycgkSCI
  - anticensor 3y ago
    The EU is not the only place that implement this regulation. There are about 129 more countries around the world with similar laws, but MSFT apparently does not want to obey them in the first place.
sheepshear 3y ago
> Windows uses the region chosen by the customer during device setup to identify if the PC is in the EEA. Once chosen in device setup, the region used for DMA compliance can only be changed by resetting the PC. https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2023/11/16/previewing-changes-in-windows-to-comply-with-the-digital-markets-act-in-the-european-economic-area/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2023/11/16/preview...
- resoluteteeth 3y ago
  So if you just choose a region in the EEA during setup can you benefit from this without any negative effects regardless of where you actually are?
  - sheepshear 3y ago
    I don't know what else the region choice affects.
    - Wohlf 3y ago
      Default language/regional formatting options, but those are easily changed.
  - zbrozek 3y ago
    I almost always select Germany when asked for my region.

Will I need to move to one of these countries to benefit from this, or can I just visit? That is, how long will I have to tunnel my traffic across the pond to keep this cruft uninstalled?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Why not militate to your politicians and law makers to have your country also adopt consumer friendly legislation? Genuine question. I know using VPNs is a lot easier, but I feel like that's not the real long-term solution.

raincole 3y ago
Most countries are not as powerful as EU. EU can do this and that customer-friendly regulation because they are a huge market that even MS and Apple cannot afford to lose.
- mulletbum 3y ago
  Most people on this site are from the USA, so I would bet their legislators could do something, but choose not to.
- vitorgrs 3y ago
  If you are from a very small country, maybe... But there's a lot of mid-sized or other big countries who just have the power and don't do any of these regulations. Brazil basically cloned GDPR and it worked (LGPD). For example, look at this Samsung tool: https://imgur.com/a/ycgkSCI https://imgur.com/a/ycgkSCI
- anticensor 3y ago
  The EU is not the only place that implement this regulation. There are about 129 more countries around the world with similar laws, but MSFT apparently does not want to obey them in the first place.

sheepshear 3y ago

> Windows uses the region chosen by the customer during device setup to identify if the PC is in the EEA. Once chosen in device setup, the region used for DMA compliance can only be changed by resetting the PC. https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2023/11/16/previewing-changes-in-windows-to-comply-with-the-digital-markets-act-in-the-european-economic-area/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2023/11/16/preview...

resoluteteeth 3y ago
So if you just choose a region in the EEA during setup can you benefit from this without any negative effects regardless of where you actually are?
- sheepshear 3y ago
  I don't know what else the region choice affects.
  - Wohlf 3y ago
    Default language/regional formatting options, but those are easily changed.
- zbrozek 3y ago
  I almost always select Germany when asked for my region.