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Source please? I only found some Oracle court case from 2012 (https://www.pcworld.com/article/465777/eu_court_rules_resale_of_used_software_licenses_is_legal_ev

Source please? I only found some Oracle court case from 2012 (https://www.pcworld.com/article/465777/eu_court_rules_resale_of_used_software_licenses_is_legal_even_online.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/465777/eu_court_rules_resale...) AFAIK this case is about reselling with the same license, but reselling bulk licenses to end users seems to be something different. Hoping I am wrong.

layer8 3y ago
The EUCJ actually makes it clear that unbundling volume licenses on resale is not permissible, see paragraphs 69 and 86 of the judgment: https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=124564&mode=req&pageIndex=1&dir=&occ=first&part=1&text=&doclang=EN&cid=371215 https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=12...
- yreg 3y ago
  I believe it's this one, I'm not a lawyer. https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/201... Perhaps they were not bought in bulk then, I don't know. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/jul/05/eu-used-digital-games-market https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/jul/05... Here's a Deloitte talk recommending businesses to buy used licenses: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/pl/Documents/Prezentacje-webinary/pl_Deloitte%20webinar_26%20April_How%20to%20buy%20and%20sell%20pre-owned%20Microsoft%20volume%20licenses.pdf https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/pl/Documents/...
  - layer8 3y ago
    Yes, that’s the press release for the judgment I linked. The press release doesn’t address the volume licensing question, which the judgment itself however makes clear in the paragraphs I referenced. The Deloitte slides agree: “Licenses that were originally sold in a bundle cannot be sold separately.”
    - yreg 3y ago
      Okay, I don't claim those are bundled licenses. I just guessed so.

layer8 3y ago

The EUCJ actually makes it clear that unbundling volume licenses on resale is not permissible, see paragraphs 69 and 86 of the judgment: https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=124564&mode=req&pageIndex=1&dir=&occ=first&part=1&text=&doclang=EN&cid=371215 https://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=12...

yreg 3y ago
I believe it's this one, I'm not a lawyer. https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/201... Perhaps they were not bought in bulk then, I don't know. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/jul/05/eu-used-digital-games-market https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/jul/05... Here's a Deloitte talk recommending businesses to buy used licenses: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/pl/Documents/Prezentacje-webinary/pl_Deloitte%20webinar_26%20April_How%20to%20buy%20and%20sell%20pre-owned%20Microsoft%20volume%20licenses.pdf https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/pl/Documents/...
- layer8 3y ago
  Yes, that’s the press release for the judgment I linked. The press release doesn’t address the volume licensing question, which the judgment itself however makes clear in the paragraphs I referenced. The Deloitte slides agree: “Licenses that were originally sold in a bundle cannot be sold separately.”
  - yreg 3y ago
    Okay, I don't claim those are bundled licenses. I just guessed so.