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I hate racists and hating racists doesnt make me a bad person. I hate people who judge others based on $1000 dollar Veblen goods. Also I make more money than t

I hate racists and hating racists doesnt make me a bad person. I hate people who judge others based on $1000 dollar Veblen goods. Also I make more money than them, so I'm very aware that the person who cares about bubbles is being exploited by Apple's psychology and marketing department. So... maybe I don't hate them, maybe we should feel sorry for them. Or maybe we need to hate them because its a deterrent against corporations exploiting insecurities.

jmull 3y ago
First, just an aside: you don't have to hate anyone. It doesn't make you a bad person to hate others, but you could be living better, that's for sure. The thing is, it usually mainly impacts the hater, making them unhappy and angry. But your analogy doesn't fit here... the issue with blue and green bubbles is the social pressure to have the "better" bubble color, to show you're part of the "better" group. That is, the negative social pressure comes from the threat of social exclusion via lower social standing. But the previous poster is also threatening social exclusion, but a more complete exclusion, and based on nearly the same thing. So it would be more like showing your objection to racism by expressing racist ideas or taking racist actions. Doesn't make sense, of course. That's my point.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  I have a hard time understanding if this actually matters. Maybe because I'm good looking and make a lot of money, I don't have to care about green bubbles? Maybe this is important if you are a poor person.
- sonicanatidae 3y ago
  The previous poster made a decision to exclude based on the other party's actions, namely giving someone shit about the color of a text box.. lol Why would I want to burden myself with clowns like that? I wear clothes because they are comfortable and look nice. I don't wear clothes because of the branding and those that are overly concerned about the branding, would be the same. Edit: also, I'm now apparently the same ilk as racists, since I choose not to deal with idiots that worry about the color of text boxes. That's cool.
  - jmull 3y ago
    > also, I'm now apparently the same ilk as racists Where is that claim made?
    - sonicanatidae 3y ago
      Right here: "So it would be more like showing your objection to racism by expressing racist ideas or taking racist actions" This is stating that, for example, if you dislike racists and choose not to associate with them, you're acting like a racist. lol That's not racism...at all. It's not even bigotry. The choice is based on actions, not class, religion, color, etc.
      - jmull 3y ago
        I don't think you're following the thread correctly. I guess re-read it, if you want to understand what is being said (probably a waste of time though).
        sonicanatidae 3y ago
        I love the non-rebuttal, followed by immediate dismissal. lol ok..
        jmull 3y ago
        Your response doesn’t address the content of the thread coherently. What else can I say? We need to actually be talking about the same things to have a discussion.

jmull 3y ago

First, just an aside: you don't have to hate anyone. It doesn't make you a bad person to hate others, but you could be living better, that's for sure. The thing is, it usually mainly impacts the hater, making them unhappy and angry. But your analogy doesn't fit here... the issue with blue and green bubbles is the social pressure to have the "better" bubble color, to show you're part of the "better" group. That is, the negative social pressure comes from the threat of social exclusion via lower social standing. But the previous poster is also threatening social exclusion, but a more complete exclusion, and based on nearly the same thing. So it would be more like showing your objection to racism by expressing racist ideas or taking racist actions. Doesn't make sense, of course. That's my point.

hospitalJail 3y ago
I have a hard time understanding if this actually matters. Maybe because I'm good looking and make a lot of money, I don't have to care about green bubbles? Maybe this is important if you are a poor person.
sonicanatidae 3y ago
The previous poster made a decision to exclude based on the other party's actions, namely giving someone shit about the color of a text box.. lol Why would I want to burden myself with clowns like that? I wear clothes because they are comfortable and look nice. I don't wear clothes because of the branding and those that are overly concerned about the branding, would be the same. Edit: also, I'm now apparently the same ilk as racists, since I choose not to deal with idiots that worry about the color of text boxes. That's cool.
- jmull 3y ago
  > also, I'm now apparently the same ilk as racists Where is that claim made?
  - sonicanatidae 3y ago
    Right here: "So it would be more like showing your objection to racism by expressing racist ideas or taking racist actions" This is stating that, for example, if you dislike racists and choose not to associate with them, you're acting like a racist. lol That's not racism...at all. It's not even bigotry. The choice is based on actions, not class, religion, color, etc.
    - jmull 3y ago
      I don't think you're following the thread correctly. I guess re-read it, if you want to understand what is being said (probably a waste of time though).
      - sonicanatidae 3y ago
        I love the non-rebuttal, followed by immediate dismissal. lol ok..
        jmull 3y ago
        Your response doesn’t address the content of the thread coherently. What else can I say? We need to actually be talking about the same things to have a discussion.